Let's Talk Space Toilets
57 points by zdw 21 hours ago | 15 comments

bdamm 9 minutes ago
The roasting process is both hypermodern and curiously antique. Burning dung is a tradition passed down across the millenia!
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detourdog 2 hours ago
I was surprised there were no pictures of the actual toilets. Would love more but found this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_toilet

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cubefox 21 minutes ago
This goes into a bit more mechanical detail than the Substack post (which only gestures at "air suction"). I'm still not sure whether there are different urine hose adapters for men and women or not.
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idlewords 14 minutes ago
The hose is the same but there are different funnel attachments (the part looks kind of like the cup from a jock strap, and is longer and narrower for women)
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ooterness 52 minutes ago
Is it simpler to build a better space toilet, or to build a ship with centrifugal gravity and use a regular toilet?
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ethan_smith 8 minutes ago
The centrifugal gravity approach requires a massive structure - you need something like 200+ meter radius to keep rotation rates low enough that Coriolis effects don't make people nauseous (which would create a whole different toilet problem). Building a better space toilet is orders of magnitude cheaper and lighter than spinning up a habitat.
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yshamrei 38 minutes ago
There are two issues:

- To build a centrifuge in space of sufficient size, you need to solve the problem of delivering a large amount of materials to orbit, because it has to be hundreds of meters in diameter at least.

- Such a centrifuge will create a gyroscopic effect, and the station will quickly become very difficult to control.

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giantrobot 21 minutes ago
Even with centrifugal "gravity" the toilets need to be designed for the worst case scenario (no "gravity"). Even if you could use a "regular" toilet the system needs to sequester and process the septic waste. That precludes even using the likes of an airplane toilet.

It's a significant amount of engineering effort, testing, feedback, and iteration to build effective life support systems for manned spaceflight. Long duration spaceflight is orders of magnitude more difficult.

Toilets are systems that can incapacitate or even kill the crew if they malfunction. In a low or microgravity environment aerosolized septic material can get in astronauts' eyes or lungs. It can also seep into electronics or other ship systems causing malfunctions. Even just clean water spraying into the cabin could be dangerous in microgravity.

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TylerE 44 minutes ago
You wouldn’t want to use a regular toilet even if you could, given how tight water margins are. Urine you can reclaim, feces not so much.
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amluto 31 minutes ago
Vacuum flush toilets are common on airplanes, trains, and ships and use a lot less water than a conventional toilet.
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nozzlegear 2 hours ago
> One piece of feedback from Skylab was that the toilet needed stronger airflow. This meant the Shuttle toilet opening had to be narrow. To practice correctly positioning their body, astronauts on Earth sat on a special training mockup with a camera mounted in the center of the waste tube. A successful docking with the device meant precisely centering one’s nether eye in the crosshairs of a video screen while crewmates looked on and yelled their encouragement.

I knew part of the job for astronauts is being intimate with one's crewmates, but I didn't know it was that intimate.

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remarkEon 2 hours ago
You could’ve told me this story without the context and I would’ve assumed it was a barracks game being played with surveillance equipment. Hilarious.
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ambicapter 2 hours ago
Not a great lunch read.
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the_af 3 hours ago
This story of space toilers clears out many questions I had about spaceflight and... uh, going number 2.

Namely: astronauts try NOT to as much as they can, and when they do go, it's a mess for both them and their crew mates. They suffer through it because being in space is a worthy achievement.

Apparently it's such a mess that NASA estimates this is why astronauts tend to undereat. Apparently Gemini 7's Frank Borman spent 9 days without going number 2 because of this, and planned to hold it in 2 full weeks (the article doesn't clarify whether he managed). Skylab seems to have done some progress, but we're still in the early eras of space toiletry!

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nQQKTz7dm27oZ 3 hours ago
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