Monero Community Crowdfunding System
40 points by OsrsNeedsf2P 3 hours ago | 17 comments

Cider9986 2 hours ago
Monero has consistently exceeded the rest of crypto in community, integrity to mission, and use-case. True digital cash.

FCMP++ upgrade will be huge for sender privacy bringing Monero's technical strength in line with ZCash.

The new site[1] looks great as well; it was funded by the CCS.

[1] https://getmonero-redesign-impl.vercel.app/

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mothballed 2 hours ago
Monero has done well from the autistic viewpoint of technical accomplishment and crushes most of the competition at meeting the technical goals of Satoshi.

They've failed horribly at meeting the regulatory and political challenges of being tradeable on central exchanges and as a result has met weak acceptance from crypto-friendly legal vendors making it harder to use as actual digital cash.

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matheusmoreira 26 minutes ago
> regulatory and political challenges

Not bending down to the financial arm of warrantless global mass surveillance is a feature, not a bug.

> being tradeable on central exchanges

Central exchanges are banks in disguise. They should not exist.

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mothballed 14 minutes ago
A key feature of cash is its ability to pass through and into the KYC/AML panopticon where you can buy things like real estate and heavy capital equipment. If you can't prove chain of custody of source of funds and source of wealth, you're effectively shut off from a wide amount of transactions.

At least in the West. If you go to someplace like Dubai it is no problem.

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matheusmoreira 11 minutes ago
> A key feature of cash is its ability to pass through and into the KYC/AML panopticon where you can buy things like real estate and heavy capital equipment.

My country is in the process of criminalizing the purchase of real estate with cash. Laws have been proposed to that end. Politicians have also proposed restricting the amount of "unexplained" physical cash the population is "allowed" to hold.

This is your future if you don't resist.

> If you can't prove chain of custody of source of funds and source of wealth

You shouldn't have to "prove" anything. What a bunch of nonsense.

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Cider9986 37 minutes ago
Cash would "fail horribly at meeting the regulatory and political challenges challenges today". And some countries are trying to make it harder to use.
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mothballed 32 minutes ago
Yes but fortunately we have other points of comparison and I was making a relative analysis. Legal vendors who take crypto are more likely to accept even the lower market cap LTC in most cases than XMR. XMR is one of the weakest performers as spending cash on legal goods and service amongst crypto assets of similar financial "weight class."

The technical superiority and features on many points seem to be unable to overcome this.

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Cider9986 2 hours ago
For business acceptance, I see how it would be hard if it is impossible to use on a CEX. I think that Haveno/RetoSwap will eventually become the preferred and more convenient Fiat-->Monero method instead of CEXs for the avg user.

Overall though I would even prefer to use a stable than a bank or fiat p2p app to send money.

>They've failed horribly at meeting the regulatory and political challenges of being tradeable on central exchanges and as a result has met weak acceptance from crypto-friendly legal vendors making it harder to use as actual digital cash.

Despite this, everywhere it is accepted, it becomes the largest marketshare crypto payment method, excluding whales.

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GolfPopper 16 minutes ago
I had not paid any attention to Monero amid the storm of cryptocurrencies and related scams, but thanks to your recommendation here, I will be checking it outmn
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loloquwowndueo 49 minutes ago
Pardon, the “autistic” point of view?
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mothballed 24 minutes ago
In this case, I mean a narrowed focus (in this case, on technical qualities) to the point it is maladaptive for the underlying stated goal ("digital cash").

A survey of cryptocurrencies showed monero has failed to achieve this goal of being a superior form of digital cash, relative to most other crypto currencies in similar 'weight class' of market cap and years available. This failure isn't technical, it's due to relative weaknesses in the realms of politics and soft social influence. Even the lower market cap LTC is more accepted as 'cash' by most legal vendors.

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hypeatei 45 minutes ago
> of being tradeable on central exchanges

That's a good signal that the privacy guarantees are real, no? It's no secret that the main use-case for crypto is skirting the legal system; I'm not sure I understand this desire to make it anything bigger than that. For example, it's extremely hard to Be Your Own Bank because one mistake means you've just lost all your funds whether it's from a scam, malware, or losing your wallet seed phrase. Large amounts of people "being their own bank" by putting their life savings into crypto would be a disaster.

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Acrobatic_Road 53 minutes ago
What are they supposed to do? How can they make governments happy without sacrificing privacy?
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matheusmoreira 21 minutes ago
> How can they make governments happy

That's the wrong question. Nobody cares how the elites in the government feel. They exist to serve us. That is the only reason they have any power at all.

The right question is: how can we make it mathematically impossible for the government to oppress us in any way, regardless of how much they seethe and rage about it? Their happiness does not matter. In fact their anger is probably a good sign that the technology is working as intended. The angrier they get, the freer you are.

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mothballed 50 minutes ago
Regulatory capture would be the traditional way
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thatmf 29 minutes ago
we're still doing the crypto thing in 2026?
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