Show HN: Tilde.run – Agent Sandbox with a Transactional, Versioned Filesystem
46 points by ozkatz 2 hours ago | 28 comments
docheinestages 25 minutes ago
Just my two cents: less is more and the first impression matters a lot. I'm saying this because we see a new agent sandbox tool on the front-page almost every day. Most of them have an AI-made landing page design, lots of animations, lots of words. This has become a bad sign for me. I can tell that you put time into it, made a video, and everything, but I guess I'm suffering from some kind of fatigue of having to go through all these tools. So, the less I have to process to get to the meat of exactly what I'm looking at, what sets this apart from others, why and when I would need to use it, then the more likely I am to actually engage with the product.
replyozkatz 22 minutes ago
That's fair. What makes this unique is the versioned, composable filesystem. It's built on top of lakeFS (https://github.com/treeverse/lakeFS) so it scales really well, unlike other solutions that try and do this with Git directly.
replywhalesalad 14 minutes ago
Agreed. All of these tools promise the world and are so incredibly vague. Actually show me what I can do with it, like hands on.
replydigitaltrees 6 minutes ago
Interesting project. I am building an IDE for my phone and browser (www.propelcode.app) and have evaluated a few container architectures and providers. It was quite painful to get a prototype working. I will try your platform and would be happy to give feedback.
replypwr1 18 minutes ago
This looks pretty useful. The versioned filesystem part is nice becuase that’s exactly where a lot of agent stuff gets messy fast.
replyesafak 26 minutes ago
I do not get it. If the agent is not mutating state the change can be checked in. If it is mutating external state, version control won't save you.
replyozkatz 24 minutes ago
the repo acts as a source of truth for agents. think memory, data & code. If an agent decides to change any of those, version control allows:
reply1. to have a human in the loop to approve certain changes 2. rollback changes that end up being incorrect 3. allow reviewing the timeline and history to figure out what changed and how
bossyTeacher 11 minutes ago
Re 2: how do you rollback the (erroneous) action of removing a db table column and the subsequent data loss from the removed column?
replyesafak 15 minutes ago
2. is false. You can't roll back everything an agent does. If you told it to place a trade in the stock market, for example, you can not undo that. That is what I mean by external state. Everything else is covered by existing version control, is it not? What does this buy over that?
replydanielbenzvi 2 hours ago
Interesting. Their versioned storage sandbox seems to be what really sets them apart
replyqudat 50 minutes ago
I don't get it, it looks like they are copying data to the sandbox filesystem why would that impact production data? Because the agent can re-upload the file to s3?
replyafshinmeh 14 minutes ago
That's exactly how I tried to address that problem with https://github.com/afshinm/zerobox -- you control what network access (e.g. `--deny-net *.amazonaws.com`) your agent has and you also get snapshotting out of the box.
replyThat said, using LakeFS is probably a better long term solution and I like this approach.
wyre 37 minutes ago
Interesting. Literally saw a tweet talking about exactly this last night.
replyNot sure how I feel about it using on your hosted service, while your home page is asking me for analytics data and only the cli and sdk are open source.
ozkatz 35 minutes ago
Fair enough - the underlying technology is indeed open source (https://github.com/treeverse/lakeFS) - the service provides the hosting and tooling to make it easy for consumption by agents.
replywyre 16 minutes ago
Thats a cool project. I didn't scroll down far enough to see that. Thanks for the correction
replyI get providing a hosted service, but I don't understand how it makes it easier for agents to consume unless you're hosting an MCP? My understanding is an agent skill and a cli tool is all an agent needs?
cyanydeez 43 minutes ago
I know everyones trying to figure out how to make money in this grift economy, but if you're a rational person, you know that it's all a bunch of gambling and tailoring your scope to b2b and ignoring local & open source models and tools, you're more likely going to be part of that permanent undeclass they keep talking about in a self-fullfilling prophecy.
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I had to create my own setup using aws s3 filesystem and docker for this.
Does Tilde solve for this?