Dumb Ways for an Open Source Project to Die
38 points by chmaynard 2 hours ago | 16 comments

tomwheeler 49 minutes ago
One that doesn't seem to be listed is "overconfident fork" in which someone forks an existing project out of anger or hubris, but that fork never gains critical mass and eventually withers away.

The opposite is what happened with OpenSSH, Jenkins, and LibreOffice, in which the original project (SSH, Hudson, and OpenOffice) had the hubris but was quickly forgotten when the community moved on.

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chmaynard 26 minutes ago
Then there's Jekyll, which is not exactly dead but definitely moribund. It seems to be blocked by GitHub's refusal to support further development and upgrade to the 4.x releases.
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Aurornis 42 minutes ago
A lot of edge cases on this list. Among projects I've used it's almost always maintainers losing interest or vanishing.

Forking is always suggested as a solution, but some projects treat forks as hostile attempts to steal their project. I've hit fork deadlock before where a maintainer didn't want to merge important requests, but also became exceedingly hostile to anyone who tried to fork the project. If a maintainer treats the project and its users as their little empire, the situation is bound to get sad.

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sokoloff 34 minutes ago
It seems not at all surprising that the “other side” of a fork would view it somewhat negatively. The person planning the fork presumably views the mainline project maintainers somewhat negatively in that moment as well.

They can be as hostile as they want; that seems nearly irrelevant to the fork decision. If the mainline won’t take a patch or wants to go in a different direction, forking seems perfectly valid and they can keep their empire. That seems fine; they didn’t want to go east, the fork going east means that those users who also want to go east can be served.

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kittikitti 4 minutes ago
I love this! Thanks for sharing.

This is missing the "someone claimed they wrote all the code from the original repository and is now doing everything they can so that the author will vanish or have their reputation destroyed so theirs won't." Tactics can include claiming authorship within the gated walls of Big Tech and using their power to oppress the author. It's actually them that's stealing work, not them. Other's can include gang stalking the author.

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ndepoel 48 minutes ago
Here's another: code was open sourced with every intention of becoming a thriving community-driven project, but in practice users only take from the code what they want for their own needs and never contribute back, or expect the maintainer to solve all of their integration issues for them. Eventually, the maintainer decides that they have better things to do than fixing other people's problems, and that there is more value to be had from bespoke contract work. Some updates still get pushed but over time the project gradually gets abandoned and the open source dream slowly passes away.
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sva_ 48 minutes ago
Another way I came across today: Someone unrelated tried to profit off the project and it pissed the maintainer off enough to stop working on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop#Status
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lloeki 23 minutes ago
> Someone [...] pissed the maintainer off enough to stop working on it

FTFY, e.g nvim-treesitter:

https://github.com/nvim-treesitter/nvim-treesitter/discussio...

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chadgpt3 49 minutes ago
What's the smart way?
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john_strinlai 31 minutes ago
>The Melbourne Metro safety campaign this post is named after closes with “be safe around trains,” which is more actionable than anything I’ve got.

so, just be safe about it, i guess.

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sva_ 43 minutes ago
The key term is "responsible sunsetting".
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charcircuit 33 minutes ago
>Real development happens inside a company’s private monorepo, and the public repo gets a periodic squashed code dump

This is not dead. Open source projects don't have to be developed out in the open.

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MeetingsBrowser 13 minutes ago
For long periods between code dumps it is indistinguishable from dead.
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2OEH8eoCRo0 39 minutes ago
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usernametaken29 20 minutes ago
I remember having this discussion a long time ago that instead of dependencies we should build a function and type hub that lets you pick tested function and type definitions. Each individual artefact is tiny so forking it is really simple. Instead of building a massive library you mix and match for your use case. The platform itself can host test cases decoupled from the definition. With AI this sounds much more real world and it solves maintenance problems pretty much entirely.
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lelanthran 6 minutes ago
> remember having this discussion a long time ago that instead of dependencies we should build a function and type hub that lets you pick tested function and type definitions.

Like leftpad?

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MeetingsBrowser 15 minutes ago
Wouldn’t this multiply the maintenance problem exponentially?

It sounds like the same problems would apply, only now per type and function rather than per library.

When a function you rely on is abandoned, how do you choose from the millions of options that may or may not behave the same?

How do you scale that across a codebase itself made of thousands of types and functions.

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