Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks
109 points by jruohonen 3 hours ago | 14 comments

efitz 31 minutes ago
I’ve been on the defender side of security my whole career.

I know in some markets crime pays more than legitimate work, but it never ceases to amaze me how much thought, effort, planning, and engineering goes into providing infrastructure IT services for cybercriminals. The people involved definitely have the skills to be profitable at legitimate work; it just puzzles me that they choose to support criminals.

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Aurornis 17 minutes ago
I watched the downfall and eventual jailing of someone who had a great job, career, and family after he started getting involved in cybercrime.

As far as I can make sense of it, he enjoyed the thrill of feeling superior to others: Evading the law, exploiting people who viewed as stupid, and enriching himself in the process.

He got caught through a mistake that was really dumb in retrospect. I think he believed his intellectual superiority combined with the stupidity of others so much that eventually he couldn’t imagine anyone catching him.

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redsocksfan45 13 minutes ago
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r_lee 23 minutes ago
> The people involved definitely have the skills to be profitable at legitimate work; it just puzzles me that they choose to support criminals.

I don't think it's that easy to go legit. having a tech job nowadays is already a luxury

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amelius 10 minutes ago
Cybersecurity is always last on the budget list. It is not easy to make money working in cybersecurity.

The only upside here is that criminals will (through legislation) eventually force companies to invest more.

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ruined 21 minutes ago
often the issue is capital. they're working for money, at the end of the day.

you can build your own skills and develop your own motivation. but if the only funding you can access is illicit, there's one path forward.

or maybe it's ideological. this example seems to be a bit of a geopolitical thing too.

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0xAstro 2 hours ago
> Stark Industries Solutions

jarvis, whats the status of my dutch servers

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legacynl 27 minutes ago
> those sanctions failed to target Stark’s remaining connection to the Internet — an Internet service provider based in the Netherlands called MIRhosting.

The fuck, i walk past the office of mirhosting every day

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analog8374 47 minutes ago
It would be nice if they named/prosecuted the people who paid them to perform the attacks.
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parineum 6 minutes ago
Law enforcement doesn't typically talk about ongoing investigations.
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DeathArrow 2 hours ago
After reading the article I am not sure what crime did they commit in the Netherlands.
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msh 2 hours ago
The article spells it out clearly: charging them with violating sanctions law by directly or indirectly making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities.
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bunbun69 35 minutes ago
I feel like you’re only asking this because you disagree with their charges, not because you genuinely have no clue why they’re arrested.
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binaryturtle 2 hours ago
> …charging them with violating sanctions law by directly or indirectly making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities…

I guess that's why.

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SecretDreams 2 hours ago
> charging them with violating sanctions law by directly or indirectly making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities.

Did you read this part?

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DonHopkins 2 hours ago
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