Ferrari Luce – Designed with Jony Ive
54 points by jumploops 5 hours ago | 112 comments

LanceJones 2 hours ago
$1.2M in Canada after provincial and federal luxury sales taxes. For a 5100 pound, sub-300 mile range, mid-performer with 23/24" wheels. All those louvres, ducts, and aerodynamics for a terribly inefficient EV. Disappointing. (edited because i had $1.1M as the final price)
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bix6 5 hours ago
Specs are insane but why does it look like a budget sedan with a cool paint job?

This sounds kind of fun. It’s curious they weren’t allowed to drive though..

> But I can say that the Torque Shift Engagement system — which gives the driver five power levels on the right paddle and five engine-braking levels on the left — is one of the most intriguing ideas I’ve seen in an electric car. It doesn’t simulate gear changes. It creates an entirely new torque language controlled by the driver, introducing an active decision-making element to trajectory management that sounds like it could restore the kind of driver engagement that many enthusiasts fear EVs have lost.

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pclmulqdq 16 minutes ago
The look is nothing less than I would expect from "make it thinner and round the corners" pioneer Jony Ive.

I don't know why people insist on EVs being kind of ugly and boxy, but Ferrari had a chance to do better and didn't.

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p1necone 56 minutes ago
Chasing "driver engagement" during regular driving at/below speed limit on regular public roads strikes me as a bit pointless. You're just trying to add friction to the process because there happened to be friction in the past.

And when you're not going the speed limit on regular public roads here's plenty of "driver engagement" to be had going too fast round tight corners (hopefully on a track, but we can't all be perfect ;)) regardless of whether there's some weird obfuscation between you and the actual mostly flat torque curve of the electric engine as long you build good suspension, body stiffness, put decent tires on it, don't make it too heavy etc.

I would love Lotus to make another road legal go-kart and slap an electric engine in it.

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LanceJones 2 hours ago
Just 280+ mile EPA range on a 122 kwH battery. 5100 pounds. 2.5s to 60. Not insane by any standard, ICE or EV.
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anvuong 47 minutes ago
Yeah that's actually rather inefficient. Tesla Model Y has 84kWh battery and a range of 300 miles.
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t1234s 8 minutes ago
The value of everyone manual F430 just went up a bit more.
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oytis 5 hours ago
> Sound waves are captured from electro-mechanical vibration in the axles that are equalised, amplified and delivered alongside visual feedback to inform the driver

In other words, they made an EV do wroom-wroom?

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hoytschermerhrn 3 hours ago
Isn’t this quite literally how a microphone works?
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karakoram 5 hours ago
I don't like it at all. The curves, the silhouette, does not work at all, it does not "speak" to me as a Ferrari.

Again, a heritage brand ruined by an obnoxious, pesky iPad like display that has no business being in a Ferrari.

The front profile is hideous too.

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throwme_123 2 hours ago
On top of this, it's 5x more expensive than a Xiaomi SU7 Ultra... which may be the better car regardless of price.
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nullpoint420 31 minutes ago
Man, I wish they sold this car in the states… I’d buy one instantly.
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osigurdson 4 hours ago
I thought the interior looked pretty nice - lots of retro physical switches, etc. The exterior doesn't look like a normal Ferrari but maybe that's on purpose. A "normal" Ferrari buyer would probably buy a normal Ferrari. Maybe this is more for someone who would have bought a Model S or X in the past but has a lot more money to shell out.
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sokoloff 2 hours ago
Looks like a Polestar and Corvette had a child.
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VerifiedReports 2 hours ago
The doors are dumb as hell. So I guess the front and back people have to take turns, because only one can squeeze through that gap?

Presumably the range is only a few KM, since Ive said, "You don't want a bigger battery."

And after ruining Apple's computers for years with his POS keyboard and embarrassing emoji bar, he's all about "tactile controls" now? Or was that the will of someone who ISN'T just a pompous hack?

Oh wait: Someone pointed out that there are KNOBS on the steering wheel. So there are wheels on a wheel. That has Ive all over it.

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pclmulqdq 13 minutes ago
Ferrari doors are always this bad. If you regularly transport more than 2 people in your Ferrari, you aren't their target market.
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diabllicseagull 2 hours ago
I guess Ferrari always preferred form-over-function to some extent. It was never the utilitarian's car but now you can't even get in a four door car at the same time. I'm really at a loss.
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anvuong 45 minutes ago
On the battery size, 122kWh is actually pretty large for this size. Most Teslas have <100kWh batteries and they all have better or similar range.
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jasonwatkinspdx 5 hours ago
Yeah, if this was coming from say Honda at a sub $100k price I'd think something like "eh, not for me but it's neat Honda is willing to do something kinda fun and odd."

But starting at $600k for that?

It's clear they'd like to have a Lamborghini Urus like sales success that's not exactly a traditional style Ferrari but this thing seems like a total miss.

But Ferrari being who they are they'll do the same scummy crap of making dealers and customers buy the turd if they wanna get an allocation for the next highly collectable supercar.

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za_creature 4 hours ago
Introducing the new

iFerrari XS

It's 140% better than the previous Ferrari Enzo

And 20% thinner

With a brand new Magnesium case

It's the fastest Ferrari we've ever built.

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sgt 4 hours ago
Nothing like the dull, beige boxes with wheels of the competition.
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VerifiedReports 2 hours ago
Fine print:

Range up to 10 Km.

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analogpixel 5 hours ago
thanks for putting into words what I was thinking as I was scrolling down the page.
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windexh8er 44 minutes ago
I honestly thought it was some sort of hideous joke. Growing up as a kid having been obsessed with supercars this to me looks like someone let Elon mash up a Model Y and a classic '96 355 using Grok. Looks pretty disgusting as someone who has followed car brands for decades.
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Fire-Dragon-DoL 4 hours ago
I love the EV idea, but the exterior design is terrible
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dvt 5 hours ago
Somehow managed to make a Ferrari look as cheap as a Tesla (inside and out).
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dingdingdang 5 hours ago
Worse in my opinion since the look is simply Tesla (whether one likes that or not), no one would have blinked an eyelid if Tesla released this car whereas Ferrari doing so comes off incoherent.
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PedroBatista 4 hours ago
Someone inside Ferrari had the terrible idea of greenlighting this and even more terrible lack of courage to not cancel this mistake because it was the baby turd of Jony Ive and Marc Newson.

Fortunately everyone will laugh and cringe, the usual car "journalists" will bite their tongues because they don't want to lose access, time will pass and it will be forgotten because Ferrari can afford to make these mistakes ( for now.. )

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kayo_20211030 4 hours ago
"Sir" Jony Ive? Sure fine, recognized by the crown and all that. It looks like a Kia. Don't get me wrong, I like Kia's. If Ive was a lollipop he'd lick himself. When you get to a point that you can no longer do seminal & groundbreaking work, and you continue to cling to what you used to be, just stop; even if only in respect to the good stuff you've done already.
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6stringmerc 4 hours ago
Ahem, there is a new Rolling Stones album slated for release in 2026. I most definitely agree with you by the way.
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kayo_20211030 4 hours ago
lol. Emotional Rescue was when I stopped listening, but I hope that Keith and Mick live forever, even as statistical outliers. I love folks that win the life lottery. It's a hope for all of us.
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gherkinnn 5 hours ago
How very unexciting. Works for laptops, Ive should stick to that.

Compare that to the next car on the list, now that's thrilling.

https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/849-testarossa

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kvuj 4 hours ago
My god that V8 sounds terrible. From a company that made countless howling V12s, it's quite disappointing.

Emission regulations I'm guessing.

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VerifiedReports 57 minutes ago
Except Ive famously ruined Apple's laptops for the better part of a decade.
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hnlmorg 4 hours ago
I suspect this car is more aimed at people who want a Tesla with a sports car badge rather than people who want a sports car. And I think that’s why most on here don’t like it.

For the vast majority of people, a Ferrari is something aspirational. But for those who can afford one but would rather have “normal” car, this might appeal. It has the form of something practical while still signalling wealth.

Before now, that generally meant those equally-ugly but for different reasons 4-wheel drive and SUVs.

If you view this as (for example) something for rich mums to take their kids to school in, then it makes a lot more sense.

At least that’s the demographic I think they’re quietly going after.

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throwaway85825 3 hours ago
A tesla is a hedge against oil prices, a Ferrari obviously isn't.
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babelfish 5 hours ago
Looks like the BMW i3 met a Magic Mouse
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sgt 4 hours ago
Love it. Although I can't help to think you'll need to flip it around to charge.
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866-RON-0-FEZ 3 hours ago
Ive is an overrated plonker and my first reaction is to wonder if all the serviceable components are glued in place.

Do you know why no one has ever put rotating switches on a steering wheel face before? Because it requires two fingers to operate the switches and thus taking your entire hand off the wheel. Those knobs and switches might as well be in the center console because it takes a similar amount of effort and diversion of attention to operate.

This looks like a car designed by someone who's never driven before. Did the early prototypes feature bubble domes before they were forced to tell Ive that won't work?

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PaulWaldman 31 minutes ago
Porsche has a similar steering wheel mounted rotary switch. Traditionally it was on models optioned with the Sport Chrono package. They recently rolled it out to all new models over the past few years.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/press-kits/taycan/Die-Driver...

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impish9208 26 minutes ago
> Do you know why no one has ever put rotating switches on a steering wheel face before? Because it requires two fingers to operate the switches and thus taking your entire hand off the wheel.

I hate this car as much you do, it looks like a vape cartridge on wheels to me. That being said, there are F1 cars with rotating knobs on the steering wheel. Different category and all, but still worth it to point out.

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VerifiedReports 2 hours ago
Wow I didn't see that. Standard Ive incompetence.

It's galling to see pompous, no-talent douchebags like Ive continually held out as some kind of innovator.

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nntwozz 2 hours ago
Ive was great when Steve was there to tell him no.
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VerifiedReports 55 minutes ago
I was there at that time, and Ive still sucked.
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KeplerBoy 5 hours ago
This style might have worked as an apple car. It sure as hell doesn't work as a Ferrari.
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MrGilbert 2 hours ago
I read the comments before visiting the website. After the page loaded I was like: "Well, the silhouette from above and the color looks neat!"

I scrolled further and saw the front of the car, and now I get what the comments meant. Holy moly. That‘s worse than the Jaguar rebrand on my scale.

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ernsheong 4 minutes ago
Took OpenAI's money and is now designing cars, lol
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KeplerBoy 4 hours ago
Interesting fact from the page: "The lowest drag coefficient in Ferrari history, achieved through aero-styling convergence, active air shutters, and ride-height logic that lowers the front by 10 mm even while cruising"

I guess not having large air intakes and generally a slightly larger frontal area helps with that (the coefficient of drag is always multiplied by the area, so this might not be the most aero Ferrari ever, that's a different claim).

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ncr100 3 hours ago
All worthwhile points.

A less worthwhile point: Especially especially low drag, when people don't drive it.

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throwaway85825 3 hours ago
The painted parts are just for show.
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notnullorvoid 32 minutes ago
I'm surprised we still let Jony Ive design anything.
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hnthrow0287345 5 hours ago
That's heinous. Their firm should stay away from sports car brands.
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skyberrys 5 hours ago
At first I thought it was a Ferrari custom built for Jony Ive made just to his specifications. But once I saw the first image I could easily understand it was designed by him. It's a talent to be an industrial designer with such a clean recognizable style that it's like a signature, easily recognizable as to who it belongs to.
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jasonwatkinspdx 4 hours ago
Yes, Ive's style is very recognizable as Dieter Rams design principles and language with brighter colors.
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notnullorvoid 36 minutes ago
Ive's style may be inspired by Dieter Rams, but he ultimately fails to emulate it in any positive way.

Ive's work is bubbly symmetric bland crap.

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zhainya 28 minutes ago
This is heartbreaking. Just awful.
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carlos-menezes 5 hours ago
That's the least Ferrari looking Ferrari I have ever seen.
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iknownthing 5 hours ago
Well that doesn't look like a Ferrari
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ncr100 3 hours ago
IDK about you, I keep imagining the horn when I see the outside: like Beaker from Dr Honeydew's laboratory in The Muppets,

"Hmeep!"

Ferrari horns are in my opinion legendary wonderful toots. And I'm troubled that this car offers very little "Ferrari" while sitting atop its brand.

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kulor 4 hours ago
Kudos to Ferrari trying to stay modern with a collab with one of the best industrial designers of the moment. But this feels antithetical to Ferrari, it's bland and utilitarian where they should be channeling flair and evocative designs.
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skeptrune 5 hours ago
I really appreciate how "Jony Ive" this looks. Feels like they absolutely nailed the style.

I personally feel like it looks like a disposable tech hardware product, but to each their own. I'm sure a lot of people will love it.

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iainctduncan 4 hours ago
Nice to see that, after all these years, "car commercial techno" is still a thing.

Man, I miss the 90's. Best decade for electronic music ever.

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bdangubic 4 hours ago
to this day, I play 90’s EDM almost exclusively while working
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reaperhulk 5 hours ago
Discussed 3 months ago as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46949642
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shaokind 5 hours ago
Worth noting: it was only the interior that was revealed then (at that same link) [0].

[0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20260216163304/https://www.ferra...

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Kon5ole 3 hours ago
Seems to me Porsche or Audi would have been better choices for Ive’s designs.

Then again the uproar might be the point of the experiment.

Edit: As an electric Ferrari family car it’s not too bad imo. Making it look like a mid-engine v12 would be silly, since it’s not that.

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cfiggers 2 hours ago
This almost couldn't be less "Ferrari." Really baffling.
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spprashant 58 minutes ago
Have we perhaps hyped Jony Ive a little too much?
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9front 2 hours ago
Jony Ive design philosophy of "thin and with round corners" can be seen in the Ferrari Luce. The car looks like an iPhone.
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hnburnsy 2 hours ago
It is 2026 cars don't need start buttons, physical keys, or giant round air vents
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flokie 5 hours ago
love the interior, not sure how i feel about that front end however. "The lowest drag coefficient in Ferrari history" is not what i would have guessed just seeing the picture alone, so props to them on making this possible!
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eps 4 hours ago
Kinda telling that the video doesn't show the front up to the very last moment.

I'm pretty sure they realize perfectly well how ugly it is.

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jcmontx 2 hours ago
Enzo is rolling on his grave
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basseed 4 hours ago
I wonder if some of the design is related to the car that Apple was designing, if Apple released an EV this is pretty much what I would have expected it to look like
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sgt 4 hours ago
"The lights gently recede when switched off, perserving the purity of the form."

This is totally impossible to read without hearing it in Ive's soothing voice.

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sgt 4 hours ago
Cool, it has suicide doors like the BMW i3 (a legendary concept car that escaped into the wild, and caused BMW to lose a lot of money)
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OptionOfT 4 hours ago
Sad that the i3 concept didn't take off, I loved it, together with the i8 (if only that one had a larger engine...)

Interestingly enough the i3 and i8's carbon structure helped the G11 & G12 (short and long wheelbase BMW 7), the G14/G15/G16 (BMW 8 series) and the F91/F92/F93 (BMW M8) shed a lot of weight.

But for the newer version of the 7 series don't use that structure anymore, as the weight savings are nullified by the battery pack.

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jasonwatkinspdx 4 hours ago
My friends had a first gen i3. They didn't like the styling but it was super practical for them as a car.
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Grazester 4 hours ago
Ferrari done lost their mind! If you told me this was a Kia I would have said it was ugly for a Kia.
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nateburke 2 hours ago
I like the ev6!
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ZiiS 5 hours ago
If the brief was to make an ipad stuck to the dash of a Ferrari not ruin the rest of the car then that is certainly one way to do it.
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jakeinspace 5 hours ago
This sucks
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OptionOfT 4 hours ago
> The lights gently recede when switched off, perserving the purity of the form

Typo on the Ferrari website...

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wheelhead 5 hours ago
This is somehow even worse than the swatch/AP collab.
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amoss 5 hours ago
That is the ugliest Ferrari I've ever seen.
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KellyCriterion 5 hours ago
Attention: AUTO-playing videos+sound when visiting
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brrrrrm 5 hours ago
it has paddle shifters - what are those for?
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antinomicus 5 hours ago
What market exists that would buy this car??
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sethops1 2 hours ago
This is the ugliest car I've ever seen, and that includes the Cybertruck. I do like the retro modern interior though.
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jebarker 5 hours ago
Imagine being able to afford a Ferrari and then buying the one that looks like a fancy Prius
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ruckfool 4 hours ago
Looks like an expensive Prius .. :(
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tomaspiaggio12 5 hours ago
458/488 was peak ferrari IMO
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wat10000 5 hours ago
It looks like an Apple Magic Mouse with wheels. Hopefully it also has a charge port on the bottom.
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throw310822 4 hours ago
And you need to turn it upside down to charge it?
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EugeneOZ 5 hours ago
Doesn't look like a sport car. From above it actually looks like a phone. The main thing is that the charging port isn’t on the bottom.
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jauntywundrkind 5 hours ago
Four wheel steering, active suspension, low center of gravity, 1050 HP...

The display & controls do look very nice!

I love how they found a way to make the sound provide real feedback. I wonder if the cabin gets feedback faster than the speed of sound in air would travel, that would be neat. I'm skeptical they kept the loop fast enough to beat speed of sound in metal though (5000~6000 m/s for steel).

> The Luce’s sound system doesn’t generate artificial noise. Instead, a precision accelerometer mounted at the center of the rear axle captures the actual vibration of the rotating electric components. That signal is then filtered, equalized, and amplified — essentially working like an electric guitar’s amplifier. The result is a sound that’s rooted in the real physics of the machinery, not synthesized from a speaker library.

https://electrek.co/2026/05/25/ferrari-luce-first-electric-f...

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KeplerBoy 5 hours ago
Interesting idea, but ultimately not going to happen (or matter). I doubt the latency in that DSP Pipeline is below a millisecond, heck given the state of non-critical automotive Software it might a second.
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somebehemoth 5 hours ago
As a lifelong fan of Ferrari, I find both the interior and exterior hideous.
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lossolo 4 hours ago
It looks like a budget car, not an exotic supercar.
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johnfink8 5 hours ago
It looks like something a villainous billionaire would drive in a sci-fi dystopia. And not in a good way.
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docheinestages 2 hours ago
Terrible design.
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fragmede 4 hours ago
Why do suicide doors if you have to have that B pillar?
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6stringmerc 4 hours ago
Oh wow, it’s even worse than I imagined based on those early images of the PlaySkool cockpit renderings!

The body lines? What body lines? I’m a vocal critic of derivative design, but this space egg usually is little more than a Junior Study drawing at best. It’s so bland it might as well be still made of clay.

I’m not being unfairly harsh here, there’s a huge tradition of sorting a car’s emotional response - yes, Countach being a prime case study - but I get more “This is interesting” from the latest Prius than anything with this design, in parts or taken as a whole. I can’t be alone, and I suppose the reactions will be savage. I am kind of giddy thinking about what some of the more crude phrasings might be from the likes of Clarkson or Harris.

This is a design for the Super Yacht club. If it was a concept car for a Chinese knock off of a Honda, it would be rightly panned at first sight. Was it designed on a first generation Macintosh?

It has no character whatsoever. The interior looks like patio furniture intended for a retirement home. To call it a failure is not quite right, because sometimes things like the Pontiac Aztek have coherent thought and risks involved. This has none of those things. Mayo on white bread with a glass of room temperature tap water.

In a strange way I love it because it might as well be called the Ferrari Hubris. Just…wow…

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ktallett 5 hours ago
It would be a great looking Hyundai but it is a dreadful looking Ferrari. The cost of such a car will be far higher than it deserves. Ferrari for me is synonymous with genuinely beautiful curvaceous cars that have a gorgeous, slightly old looking interior. This is not it, nor is it take Ferrari into the modern day.
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sinsterizme 4 hours ago
Wow, this looks atrocious. I was thinking this was perhaps a budget model by its appearance, but then I looked up the retail price…
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saaaaaam 5 hours ago
This would have been an AMAZING Volvo. Sadly, it’s a very disappointing Ferrari.
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riccardomc 5 hours ago
mamma mia...
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IAmGraydon 2 hours ago
Is Ferrari serious with this? Are they trying to commit brand suicide? What in the world is going on with all of these large companies doing the absolute stupidest possible thing lately?
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coolgoose 5 hours ago
Is this a joke ? It looks beyond crap.
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slinkydeveloper 5 hours ago
Wow they went all-in creating a car for silicon valley tech bros...

Even the color they chose for the reveal speaks to me like "rich luxury car without personality"

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senectus1 2 hours ago
where are the specs for this FerrariPhone?

the phone screen shots show a pathetic 270km range...

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lnrd 4 hours ago
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