Renting a sewing machine from the library
185 points by sohkamyung 8 hours ago | 94 comments

ElijahLynn 7 hours ago
My local library which is part of the Washington county Library system (next to Portland). It's where Hillsboro is, which is where Intel's manufacturing is, also called Silicon Forest, has a Library Of Things!

I've checked out a KitchenAid stand mixer, synthesizer, guitar, stud finder, drum machine, ukulele, air quality detector, and many more things.

They also have a sewing machine and a. Vitamix.

It's amazing! I love being able to check out new things from our library!

I think there's an effort towards tool checkout as well in the future! There's a tool library in a couple cities east of us as well that I keep hearing about!

PDX has it going on!!!

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xattt 4 hours ago
Libraries of Things are a thing now. The items that are most useful are those that lend things that you use from once a year to every couple of years.

My local library (PEI Library Service) has a telescope, radon detector, a basic (and I mean basic) toolkit, some gardening tools among other things. The collection has a couple of surprises, but mostly underwhelming.

I did request something more practical, like a bicycle disc brake flushing kit, but this has not happened yet.

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bombcar 2 hours ago
Auto part stores often will lend both weird and specialized tools, and relatively basic ones, too.

Usually the way it works is you "buy" the tool and then "return" it.

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erikschoster 6 hours ago
Our little town in Minnesota has some of these too (https://winona.lib.mn.us/library-of-things/) it's really cool! There's also a new maker space getting set up now which will have a tool library open to the community.
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tonypapousek 7 hours ago
The Washington County library system is excellent; I love that one card will get you access to the entire area.
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rfarley04 6 hours ago
That's my library system too! I go to tualatin and it has a dedicated room for their makerlab and have classes every day for all kinds of stuff. Whenever I go in its pretty well attended.
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cuvinny 6 hours ago
My library has something similar. Sewing and embroidering machines, 3D printers and even a CNC machine. Most are free to use as long as you bring the material, the only one that I can remember having a cost is the laser cutter but even then it was under 10 bucks an hour. They have a bunch of other things like being able to check out a pass the the state parks and some museum passes.

This is the Charleston County library system.

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EvanAnderson 2 hours ago
The Greene County Ohio Public Library (Xenia, OH) did something like this a few years ago and other libraries in the area (Dayton Metro and Troy-Miami County) started similar spaces, too. They all have a similar array of machines-- CNC, 3D printing, dye sub printing, laser engravers, vinyl cutters, sewing and embroidery, video and photo editing, etc. It's amazing to me that within a five year timespan all of this became available to anybody in the community for the cost of materials.
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random__duck 4 hours ago
That sounds so cool, are they building an entire fablab in there?
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whycombinetor 6 hours ago
Denver has this... nominally. 3 machines (2 in circulation, one is a "Display"). 4 week checkout period. 103 current holds. 103*4/2/12 ≈ 17 year wait time.
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dhosek 5 hours ago
That theoretical wait time doesn’t usually end up being so long. Between borrowers returning things early, people on the wait list giving up and most importantly, the library deciding that the current inventory is insufficient, the wait times usually are much less than that (I’ve observed this with books and other materials at my local library and the wait on in-demand times is never as long as the queue would imply).
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bombcar 2 hours ago
Books yes, DVDs yes.

But we can check out a Netflix Roku, and the wait time really is what it says on the tin + a bit more; which works out to about once a year, which is about what we need ...

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ggandhi 32 minutes ago
I signed my daughter up for a library card when she was two. She can't read yet.

I believed you can't teach a child to love libraries. You keep taking them, and let the room do the rest. That room do wonders and it did that to me and I am sure will do that to her too.

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akouri 5 hours ago
Libraries around me have just become a homeless shelter. Pretty sad because the buildings themselves are actually quite nice and I'd use them often if it weren't for the high likelihood of being harassed.
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ctdinjeu9 5 hours ago
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TurdF3rguson 5 hours ago
You mean being asked for spare change makes you avoid that library? Why not just give them your change?
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llbbdd 2 hours ago
Indistinguishable from a joke
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hsuduebc2 3 hours ago
Sure, that's exactly what you want in library.

I understand it's tough for them but some of the homeless people are not people you enjoy you want to be around. I don't understand this need to spread this sentiment.

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TurdF3rguson 3 hours ago
You will encounter homeless people in libraries, because it's one of the few public spaces that won't kick them out. Your reaction to that shouldn't be to hate and avoid libraries though. It should be to appreciate them more.
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vasco 47 minutes ago
The guy didn't said he hated it, you did. He just said he avoided it. I would too. The same way I wouldn't want to hang out at a homeless shelter (and why many homeless themselves avoid any places with many other homeless people).
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TurdF3rguson 6 minutes ago
I would avoid homeless shelters because I have no reason to be there. But I won't avoid libraries because I do have a reason to be there, and I know there's no reason to be scared of interacting with homeless people.

They're just people and the library is for them too.

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ghaff 5 hours ago
I don't have any change on me.
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trick-or-treat 4 hours ago
Just say that then. Or give them a dollar.
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queenkjuul 5 hours ago
Do what I do: kindly tell them you have no change. Works for me every time
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onetokeoverthe 3 hours ago
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felooboolooomba 7 hours ago
If you went into programming because you like making things, odds are high you'll like sewing too. Speaking from experience.
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cyberrock 5 hours ago
In my experience it will also make you appreciate aspects of physical production that don't apply to programming. For example, how precisely you need to cut fabric and join/pin/baste fabric together before you sew such that it looks nice. I'm glad I don't need to reckon millimeter precision on a ruler for my job.
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ranger207 6 hours ago
What kind of stuff do you make sewing? About the only think I've ever wanted to sew was a new pocket on a jacket
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analog31 2 hours ago
My family has one. I'm not sure we'd get one if we didn't already have it. With that said, I've repaired clothing, backpacks, and a fairly expensive musical instrument case. For the latter repairs, I broke a few needles, and had to work the mechanism by hand, a stitch at a time, because the motor wasn't strong enough, but it got the job done.

As for making things, curtains. They're not hard because they're rectangular, and mainly just need cutting and hemming, but the result is sizes and materials that would require buying something custom made.

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galleywest200 6 hours ago
Throw pillows out of old t-shirts.
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sitzkrieg 3 hours ago
working with your hands and developing physical craftsmanship is unbeatable
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darkvertex 2 hours ago
The main library here in Montreal has a sick makerspace with 3D printers (plastic and resin), wood CNC machines, a digital embroidery machine, button maker, shirt press, hole driller, laser cutter, vacuform and vinyl cutter: https://square.banq.qc.ca/fablab

It's a pretty dope library. They also let you borrow movies, videogames for all consoles and even board games, vinyl records and a few music instruments.

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LPisGood 5 hours ago
My very small town growing up had sewing machines and they eventually even got a 3D printer. In high school I sewed a heart shaped pillow for a valentines day present; the library provided a bin of free fabric/stuffing as well as the machine. Libraries are awesome.
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yakkomajuri 6 hours ago
Finnish libraries are fantastic. Many had free-to-use 3D printers as far back as 2012!

Libraries are a place of possibilities and fun, and it makes people want to be there. You can imagine the long-term positive impact this has.

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netsharc 5 hours ago
The Deichman Library in Bjørvika, Oslo, Norway (they named their public library after a businessman/book collector who donated his books to the city) is basically a hangout space: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT1xI7SSdLo
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Plasmoid 7 hours ago
My local library has been running a tool lender library for quite a while. It's quite popular as it rents out both manual and electric tools. This is great when you need an extension ladder but don't want to own an extension ladder.
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Avicebron 8 hours ago
One of the libraries near me has kayaks for loan as well as picking up the slack when all of the funding for after school programs was slashed. The value of third spaces is slowly creeping back into the public mindspace, but not enough.
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delichon 7 hours ago
I'd argue that sewing machines are among the most complex, high skill items found in a typical home, above the laptop and car. I find it very hard to keep mine operational. I struggle with it a lot more than I sew with it. They require fine motor skills and scads of parts and supplies. If you plan to rent them, plan for a repair staff or frequent replacements.

Compared to a book, a sewing machine is a space ship, and you should see what people can do to a book. To be sustainable it needs a replacement value deposit, which isn't easy for someone who can't afford an entry level model.

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AngryData 4 hours ago
Sewing machines are complex, but ive had experiences both ways with them. One model I had endless troubles with both getting to run and keep running well, but then ive had others that are seemingly bulletproof. At my family's cabin my great-grandmother had a foot powered one that to this day works flawlessly and has never seen any maintenance or repairs ive ever seen and she use to make tons of quilts on it. I don't use it much these days but I do squirt a bit of oil on it every few years and make sure it is still working.
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criddell 7 hours ago
I bought a sewing machine a five years ago and I haven’t had to do any maintenance or repairs to it. What kinds of things are breaking on your machine?
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delichon 7 hours ago
I only use it a couple of times per year, and simply threading it is a genuine challenge for me. So is keeping a stich running. People who sew more or have good fine motor skill may just not remember the noob experience. I expect a lot of new renters to have a learning curve to climb.
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yw3410 7 hours ago
In the United Kingdom, we learn (maybe past tense, I've no idea if the curriculum has changed) how to use a sewing machine at secondary school.
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deanc 2 hours ago
I’m almost 40 and educated in the UK. I don’t think sewing has been taught in UK schools for quite many generations now - although no idea what the state of affairs is today.
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jessewmc 7 hours ago
it helps to have a good sewing machine - the difference between a poor quality one and e.g. a nice bernina is dramatic. even an old one thats been well maintained will give you many years of reliable use with minimal maintenance, and they're very affordable used
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danielheath 6 hours ago
> even an old one

My overlocker was made in West Germany (when that was a country), and is still going strong.

Threading was a bit tricky the first few times, but the manual is really exceptionally well written.

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2muchcoffeeman 6 hours ago
I bought mine 10 years ago, maybe longer. Never had to do anything. Super useful when we need it.
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felooboolooomba 7 hours ago
Opposite experience. I studied mine extensively when I got it. I rarely have problems. But it's definitely a mechanical wonder.
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markdown 5 hours ago
Get yourself an old Singer. They're the Toyota of sewing machines.
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teaearlgraycold 7 hours ago
You have confused high maintenance with complex. Not to belittle sewing machines, which are very cool and not exactly simple.
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calvinmorrison 7 hours ago
Yes and no. I can stitch. I regularly do adjust clothes. I am a bad amateur. It's crazy what my neighbor does (She has a industrial sewing machine) and does piece finish work. It's a real skill.

However, I highly recommend everyone get and learn how to perform basic stitches because hand stitching is a lot hard to get a good quality stitch out of, especially for doing things like repairs in areas that wear.

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JackLau 5 hours ago
Iowa has this too, the Des Moines Public Library has a Library of Things with over 50 items.
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Telaneo 6 hours ago
I really wish my local libraries would offer things like this. I do own a sewing machine, and even if I didn't, I could probably call on a friend if I did need one, but there are several other categories of things this doesn't apply as much too: gardening tools, ladders, skis, a wheelbarrow. If I could just pop in a library and come back when I'm done, that'd be really convenient.

I can borrow CDs, DVDs, records, sheet music, games, but those were probably a pretty logical continuation of lending out books, so the jump to random items is probably one that needs justification to the people higher up the chain. Hopefully this will serve as a good example.

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queenkjuul 5 hours ago
There are some tool libraries where i live specifically for big or expensive stuff like ladders, power saws, etc; stuff most people need once every few years but don't want to keep in their apartment
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YeahThisIsMe 3 hours ago
Noo, don't tell the major VC website about libraries.
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jameszol 5 hours ago
I’m trying to privately build a public library in a rural Idaho community. Borrowing sewing machines has been a popular request, as soon as we have space for them. It’s exciting to see that it’s a worldwide desire and not just a rural trend. Very cool to read about how Finland is doubling down on investing in libraries and skill building tools like sewing machines!
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WaitWaitWha 3 hours ago
How are you going about this? Asking because I thought about doing something similar (e.g., Makerspaces, hackerspaces, Fab Labs).
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jameszol 2 hours ago
Luckily a few others here in Idaho have done it by way of a Friends of the Library official non-profit 501(c)(3), so I have a model to follow that works in our region and for our rural conservative conditions. The standard non-profit benefits apply: we apply for a lot of grants, we set up endowments, accept land or stock as gifts, take on capital projects like building a library. The public library can then lease from us (probably for $0) or if we put a large enough endowment fund together we would very much consider taking it all private vs just a purpose built building for the library.
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erelong 7 hours ago
there's things like "tool libraries" and it might be good to see more lending beyond books;

some of the libraries I've seen have morphed more into like makerspaces and/or meeting spaces rather than just places to get books

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queenkjuul 5 hours ago
Tool libraries rock, i think this model could work really well for lots of things especially in big cities.

I am blessed with a huge apartment but even i have to make decisions about what tools to keep around given the space. Yeah i could buy something from harbor freight and use it once and donate to the thrift store, but how much better if my neighbors and i could just share a big collection of stuff we all might need once every year or two

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justinclift 3 hours ago
There's at least one in Melbourne, Australia (near the CBD) too: https://www.brunswicktoollibrary.org
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Telemakhos 6 hours ago
Why do the pictures with this article feel so weird? Like, the first one is of a guy in Finland reading a book with an English title while standing in front of a shelf full of books with English titles.
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wzdd 6 hours ago
Oodi is at least equally community / maker space and library, very distinctively and attractively designed, quite new, and in the middle of Helsinki, so there are a lot of non Finnish speakers visiting so there is a large English section.
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antupis 2 hours ago
There is lots of English/Swedish books in average Finnish library.
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bcraven 6 hours ago
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f4k3Ng4y 6 hours ago
Manufactured reality
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queenkjuul 5 hours ago
70% of Finns speak English
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karunamurti 4 hours ago
In Japan there's a karaoke chain that rents sewing machine.
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bobbytheblkbear 7 hours ago
This only works in a high-trust society.
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UtopiaPunk 6 hours ago
I think society only works in a high trust society. Well, maybe something exists functionally in low trust society, but it sounds miserable.
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imthias404 3 hours ago
your username is fitting.
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fnord77 2 hours ago
South SF library has sewing machines

SFPL used to have tools until it got ruined.

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Havoc 5 hours ago
> 55% of Finns visit libraries at least once a month.

Wait what? That seems insanely high even for a progressive society.

As a reference point UK is at 30% on YEARLY STATS NOT MONTHLY

>In England, 30% of adults aged 16 and over used a public library service at least once in the previous 12 months.

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deanc 2 hours ago
I live in Finland and even I am sceptical of this figure. Maybe that’s because I go once a year.

I will say it’s very very common for folks to use the library for its primary purpose of renting books - which of course requires a visit twice in a month - once to collect and once to return.

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fragmede 2 hours ago
On the return trip, you collect another set of books, which you then also have to return in two weeks.
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fragmede 2 hours ago
On the return trip, you collect another set of books, making it a habit.
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timonoko 10 minutes ago
The report is deliberately misleading by the red-green government. If you read between the lines it is a poll among the library visitors.
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timonoko 3 hours ago
> 1 point by timonoko 67 days ago : A Tour of Oodi

These are just echoes of Soviet Era "Cultural Palaces" aka "Folkets Hus" in Socialists-run Sweden. For the "Culture" no one wants to pay their own money for.

I visited it only once, using the Toilet. Kinda Scary. It was gender-free, consisting of large locked cubicles, which were mostly occupied as kiosks for drugs and sexual services. Romanian Romas also had permanent presence there. But sadly this gender-free dream was destroyed by the order of the Nazi Polizei.

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panchtatvam 2 hours ago
That's one way to convert a library from home of books to home of everything non-bookish. No way the society is growing dumber day by day.
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iberator 7 hours ago
Sewing machines are great for computer people: you can train your fashion sense and motor skills(!) - most 'nerds' lack it :)

Also it's an incredible women magnet :)

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nntwozz 6 hours ago
Hey baby, wanna see my sewing machine? I can add a gusset anywhere you want.
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kaikai 6 hours ago
Forget about gussets, I can offer pockets
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tim-tday 3 hours ago
Ha. Give a lady something she really wants and you’re in.
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white_tiger 2 hours ago
cool
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queenkjuul 5 hours ago
I always wanted to start a musical instrument library. I loved working in a music store, helping people pick out the right instruments for what they're trying to accomplish, but always constrained by their budget. We had a per-semester rental program for school band students, where we'd take a deposit and rental fees but we'd handle the maintenance and families could save a ton versus buying. Something similar where like, you want to loan out a particular amp or pedal or synth or cymbal or something to go record a record for a week, the library would be there to help you access gear you couldn't normally afford, and I'd be there to keep everything working and help you find the right tool for the job.

Maybe someday.

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trueno 3 hours ago
i love the one HN thread title a day that hits whatever this mark is. i love this lmao
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redwood 7 hours ago
Berkeley had a very cool tool lending library
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dredmorbius 4 hours ago
"Had"?
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ihaveajob 25 minutes ago
Has. I can confirm.
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nicechianti 5 hours ago
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p1dda 5 hours ago
Socialist wet dream. In reality someone has to pay for all these adults wasting time instead of working for a living.
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tim-tday 3 hours ago
I know this is supposed to be sarcastic, but This is actually a great framing for why we should love our libraries.

They’re decidedly NOT productive to business. They’re yours as a person. They’re your time, your leisure, your enrichment.

I suppose they’re productive to business in the long run because the create more thoughtful and effective people so maybe they’re not all good.

Still, a good reason to lean into them.

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queenkjuul 35 minutes ago
Hilarious. Tool libraries exist and are quite successful here in capitalist US of A (and, apparently, in capitalist Finland. You didn't think they were communists or something, did you?)
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stein1946 2 hours ago
I am not sure I like the direction the modern libraries are taking.

Libraries should be places where people pickup books and read them, that's it.

They should not be community centers, DYI hobby centers, convention/exhibition places.

I feel they have been co-opted by people who have no interest in knowledge acquisition.

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raegis 2 hours ago
Libraries have been renting non-books for a long time. Different communities have different needs. It's not a big deal. Some libraries in the Los Angeles area lend sewing machines, bike tools, and other useful stuff. The main branch library has 3d printers and other tech stuff ordinary folks can't afford. And of course, they have various workshops on numerous topics for adults and children.

Given all the stuff I've taken advantage of, if the libraries here were only for borrowing books, they would seem kind of useless. And this is from someone who has the max 30 books checked out right now.

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totetsu 2 hours ago
It’s easier to take time to pick up a book and learn something if your life is going smoothly in other areas. If all your clothes need mending it can make a barrier of embarrassment to go to a public place like a library. With the hollowing out of the middle class, people live in smaller housing and move more, lose their inter generational resources. If there’s a trusted social institution that is knowen for borrow and lending, and people have a need to borrow tools for their everyday life it seems not such a deviation from the purpose of libraries
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badlibrarian 2 hours ago
Andrew Carnegie funded 2,500+ public libraries and many were built with lecture halls, auditoriums, and meeting rooms on purpose. The public library was a civic institution from day one.
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eks391 2 hours ago
Libraries might not be a business but they still have to compete for funding. If those funding them think they are no longer relevant, the alternative is to slowly lose funding and die. People don't care about books anymore, so if the library must dangle an enticement to keep people engaged enough to retain the instilled indeed that knowledge should be freely available instead of siloed (and the other benefits of libraries), so be it.

Adapt or die is the way of life.

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