Small AI Models Gain Traction In places with unreliable networks
44 points by sscaryterry 4 hours ago | 10 comments

jdonaldson 24 minutes ago
I think neuro-symbolic AI has a lot of potential here, since small models can handle a lot of conversational inputs, while relying on wired-in solvers for more complex symbolic math/computation needs. https://jjd.io/posts/swollm-bbh-leaderboard.html
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tim-fan 2 hours ago
Is anyone making LLM-in-a-box for emergency supply kits yet?

I feel that would be handy in all sorts of situations when networks are down.

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Terr_ 41 minutes ago
> LLM-in-a-box for emergency

For most actual emergency scenarios, a device that focuses on storage of large amounts of prepared normal reference material [0] will be wayyyyy cheaper, durable, portable, and able to run without being plugged into an untouched power-plant.

In contrast, imagine building a beefy computer with good GPU/RAM, ruggedizing it, and then mothballing it in a "safe" location for the big earthquake/flood/etc. Then when you need it, how will you power it? If power is 20 miles away on the other side of the mountain, are you going to carry it on your back, or are you going to carry water to live?

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skybrian 32 minutes ago
You will probably want a search engine though. Perhaps a small LLM would work well as a component for that?
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SwellJoe 54 minutes ago
This is couched in prepper nonsense, but it's got LLM, WikiPedia, maps, etc. A bunch of genuinely useful stuff to keep on a USB stick or whatever: https://www.projectnomad.us/

But, the current model you really want for an emergency kit is Gemma 4 12B QAT 4-bit. At ~7GB on disk, it's small enough to run on a tablet or any modern computer, slowly if you don't have a GPU or modern Apple silicon, but exceedingly smart for its size, excellent vision capabilities, good tool user, surprisingly good reasoning.

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vessenes 19 minutes ago
I've been mulling over a good use of a large philanthropy spend in the next decade, and I would love to build a bunch of hardware "oracles" that include an LLM. Ideally solid state, visual/audio, solar + usb-c, so, good in a lot of doomsday scenarios as well as just out hiking. It's a fun thought experiment. I imagine making like 1 million of them, they could be sold and genuinely useful, but also given away; once owned, you could use them, or store and put in an emergency box, bury next to the 10k year clock.. a lot of possibilities.
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cdnsteve 2 hours ago
Can you expand what you mean?
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wahnfrieden 2 hours ago
They want to ask the iOS Foundation model (frontier on device intelligence for something small) for instance about emergency procedures and life-saving info. I wouldn’t trust that model with much at all though. More likely to find what you need from miniature survival guides.
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bombcar 3 hours ago
99% of the model "work" (meaning the connection to your computer) is just spinning a spinner - something that makes me want to wrap it with a mosh shell so I can just keep moving from network to network.
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enoint 2 hours ago
Fascinating to wonder whether the bigger model finds fewer or more counterfeits than the on-device one.
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