Show HN: Getting GLM 5.2 running on my slow computer
111 points by vforno 14 hours ago | 26 comments
A few days ago I found myself trying out GLM 5.2 and was really positively impressed. The capabilities and security I was getting from this LLM are similar to those I've gotten from models like Claude or GPT, and this really surprised me.

But then I thought, "I wonder how it would work on a normal computer like mine," and above all, "I wonder if it would work without going into OOM on a computer like mine." So I started working with the help of agents to test this possibility.

I started converting the model to int4, understanding MTP usage, and if possible implementing DSA for long context. How it responds in int4 and whether the quality is maintained or not. Until I got to the point, on my computer with 32GB of RAM, I was able to communicate with GLM 5.2 with times that, of course, aren't high in cold start, but even then, we're talking about 0.1 tok/s, but that wasn't important to me. The important thing was the journey to reach this goal. I just wanted it to work at all costs, even slowly.

So I created Colibrì, which was born from a very simple idea, to be honest, but tested in every way, where a 744B Mixture-of-Experts model activates only ~40B parameters per token—and only ~11 GB of those change from token to token (the routed experts). So:

The dense part (attention, shared experts, embeddings—~17B params) stays resident in RAM at int4 (~9.9 GB); The 21,504 routed experts (75 MoE layers × 256 experts + the MTP head, ~19 MB each at int4) live on disk (~370 GB) and are streamed on demand, with a per-layer LRU cache, an optional pinned hot-store, and the OS page cache as a free L2.

The engine is a single C file (c/glm.c, ~1,300 lines) plus small headers. No BLAS, no Python at runtime, no GPU.No GPU or serious hardware because I don't have that hardware so I can't test it on hardware that is more powerful than my computer.Colibrì is a one-person project, written and tested entirely on a 12-core laptop with 25 GB of RAM — the numbers above are the ceiling of what I can measure at home.

Any feedback is welcome! (and if anyone wanted to participate in the project I would be delighted)

Repo: https://github.com/JustVugg/colibri


kodablah 7 minutes ago
I've taken a similar strategy w/ image/video gen at https://github.com/cretz/thinfer (see video branch for a ton of work).

Basically I kept needing an inference engine that could stream weights in and out as needed in an LRU manner. So I ended up vibe coding this thing that accepts a `--vram-budget` and stays under it (mostly). It turns out moving mmap'd bytes in and out of VRAM is way cheap compared to compute. Coupled with some pipelining/double-buffering, I almost always end up compute bound not memory bound. Granted I use way smaller models heh.

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walrus01 49 minutes ago
My main question is whether when put into practical use, this can be measured in tokens/second, or more like 1 token per minute... I have seen locally hosted LLM that are as slow as 1 tok/second still be very useful if you give it a project to do something overnight and metaphorically walk away from it, check back with what it has done in 6 or 8 hours.

0.05 to 0.1 tok/s on the other hand, as reported in the URL for the lowest class of hardware, isn't really usable for much.

edit: I think this is a fantastic project in general concept, and look forward to seeing more efforts towards the general idea of being able to run a 350B to 900B size model locally, even if as slow as 1 tok/s, on hardware that ordinary people can afford. Anything along the general concept of "we have fast read NVME SSD storage, we have a big ass model on local disk, we'll read it at 11GB/tok as we need it, not try to load the whole thing".

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vforno 48 minutes ago
In the readme you can see benchmark which everyone with different hardware is running Colibrì, and I have to say I've seen great times! I'm always doing more to improve!
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walrus01 41 minutes ago
I have a 16-core system with 256GB RAM here I could try it with but regretfully it's so old the CPUs aren't AVX2 capable. Otherwise it makes a fairly good llama-server test system for CPU only stuff. Oh well. Time to upgrade (painful to the wallet these days).
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vforno 38 minutes ago
Maybe we can see some integration!
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Cieric 8 minutes ago
I was actually just working on the same thing as this, but I went down the route of mmapping the entire model into memory to avoid the extra ram usage. I also had Claude implement Medusa on the model to try and avoid loading an additional model into memory but still get the benefits of MTP. Currently at a stop light so I can't list everything and I didn't get to read your full post either yet.
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bobim 26 minutes ago
I'm not fully understanding this business of MoE so please forgive me if this is a dumb question, but would it be possible to use MPI with a small cluster to distribute the load?
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vforno 22 minutes ago
It’s a good question.

In theory MPI could distribute experts across nodes. In practice, for small clusters the added network latency usually hurts more than it helps.

Better suited for big clusters with fast interconnects. For now we're focusing on single-machine speed (caching, GPU hybrid, etc.).

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shrinks99 42 minutes ago
Pretty cool! I've also been playing around with GLM 5.2 this week and was equally impressed. At work we're running it locally on some crazy expensive hardware as a test before starting another project so it's great to see people taking this massive FOSS model release and running it on an average machine, even if it's not terribly practical at this point.

Nice work!

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vforno 41 minutes ago
Really thanks!!
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miohtama 2 hours ago
This is the hacker spirit
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vforno 2 hours ago
Thank you so much, it's true! It all started with this spirit!
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khalic 40 minutes ago
I love seeing that kind of tinkering
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vforno 37 minutes ago
Really thanks!
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mariopt 51 minutes ago
I wonder if you could replicate this in a Colourful GeForce RTX 50-series GPU, they ship it with 2 NVMe drive slots.
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vforno 49 minutes ago
I'd love to! Right now I only have a very consumer-grade computer that I've had fun with! We'll see!
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xfalcox 44 minutes ago
Question to the OP, have you tested this on a machine where the entire model and context fit in RAM ?
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walrus01 29 minutes ago
I think if you had something like a theoretical used/refurb 2U rackmount server with two older multi core CPUs, 768GB of RAM, you would see faster performance loading a Q6 or Q8 GGUF of GLM5.2 into a freshly-compiled latest copy of llama-server, with the "no-mmap" option turned on to intentionally load the whole thing into RAM at the time the llama-server daemon launches.

If you want a CPU-only machine with 512GB to 1024GB of RAM, despite extreme cost rises, there are still some great options out there from companies selling ex-lease stuff that's 3, 4, 5 years old. It'll be loud as hell under full CPU load when running inference, so if you plan to use it at home, put it in your garage or basement or laundry room or somewhere similar on the far end of a network cable.

The software that OP has published appears to be specifically designed to hold only the active parameters in RAM (<100GB) and read content off local NVME SSD as needed on the fly. All that NVME SSD read wouldn't be necessary if you can hold the model in RAM, even in the absence of any GPUs.

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vforno 37 minutes ago
No because I have only 32gb of ram too low
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kzrdude 48 minutes ago
Your coding style is halfway to IOCCC. I'm just jealous though :)
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Pragmata 52 minutes ago
Would this cause issues with SSD lifespan?
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vforno 50 minutes ago
What causes problems is the rewriting in this case are only read while writing is the cache! However, I'm working to improve more and more and make some parts lighter!
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Pragmata 4 minutes ago
Is it possible to run this into an agent? pi, claude code, etc..? I've only tried it with LM studio, but i'm guessing this is a bit different
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nerder92 58 minutes ago
Is this inspired by antirez work on ds4?

Amazing job!

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vforno 55 minutes ago
Antirez is the number one!thanks really thanks!
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