Vint Cerf, a “father of the Internet”, is retiring
66 points by compiler-guy 3 days ago | 42 comments

Angostura 2 hours ago
I interviewed him a few times, when I was a tech journalist in the 90s - a very impressive man.

However I never forget my surprise, Idly flicking through TV one evening and coming across Earth Final Conflict - and there was Vint in a fairly substantial role

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djtriptych 45 minutes ago
hah. I was an intern at Google in 2005 when he was hired and remember the wave of reverence that went through Mountain View. Salute to a legend!

It’s like two lifetimes in tech years. I remember that summer Google Earth was launched, we were a year removed from the Gmail launch, and I worked on shipping the first Summer of Code.

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jamesbelchamber 8 minutes ago
IP on everything :D
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wwind123 2 hours ago
I still remember back in 2005 when I just joined a company, a coworker was quipping Google is not a real elite company, because it doesn't even have a Turing Award winner. I showed him the news that Vint Cerf joined Google recently.
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incognito124 55 minutes ago
I'm relatively young and my first exposure to life and work of Vint Cerf was through DTN and Interplanetary Internet. What a life of accomplishment!
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aooao 55 minutes ago
I wonder if he would have designed TCP/IP differently if he'd had the chance to have a second go of it.

Maybe having multiple streams within a single connection, like QUIC does, would have been a better choice. Also being able to demarcate message boundaries within the protocol itself, perhaps, instead of it being a simple byte stream.

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kristopolous 53 minutes ago
he's answered this question a few times. It's basically "how was I supposed to have any idea what the implications were?" He said something like "16 bit, 32 bit, 48 bit addressing, it felt all equally improbable. Why would there ever be 65,000 computers on this network?"
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greyface- 25 minutes ago
> if he'd had the chance to have a second go of it

In a sense, he did. Take a look at RFC 4838.

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fragmede 48 minutes ago
The computers of today are vastly more capable than the computers of the day when he came up with TCP/IP so if he were to have a second chance, knowing what he knows now, we'd have to calibrate it against the fact that computers in the 1970s simply weren't as capable as the beasts we have today.
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pwdisswordfishq 3 hours ago
> a relatively good career

What's that for?

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lkramer 3 hours ago
I believe it's what is called a joke. I'm with you, I don't like them either.
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khurs 45 minutes ago
It's written down so no body language.

The video probably shows a wide smile whilst saying it.

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jdw64 2 hours ago
How amazing it must be to be called the 'father' of something that everyone uses... I'm envious. Could I ever create something like that? As a programmer, the dream is always to build something that others actually use properly.
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chips_not_fries 4 hours ago
A genuine innovator

No matter what you think of Google

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echelon 54 minutes ago
Google can't tarnish Vint Cerf.

There are lots of brilliant people at Google who do no evil.

The fact that the company makes evil decisions about the direction of the web, privacy, and performs blatantly monopolistic actions does not outweigh the good things people at Google have done. At least not yet.

You can hate the company but love the brilliant work the engineers have done. The same can be said of lots of companies: Apple, Anthropic, ...

Meta, on the other hand, I'm not so sure about. It's less of an overt monopoly, but some of its actions are heinously amoral.

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ChrisMarshallNY 22 minutes ago
Wasn’t the first time, for him, but he has managed to keep his name in the clear.

He worked for MCI/Worldcomm, before Google. Bernie Ebbers went to jail, for that.

Ahh… the good ol’ days, when we actually jailed scumbag billionaires, instead of voting massive pay bumps…

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jibal 11 minutes ago
I worked on the ARPANET project under Steve Crocker at UCLA and met his bud Vint there (with his ever-present 3 piece suit, briefcase, and hearing aids) ... what a great guy.

An anecdote: I wrote a program (in Sigma-7 assembler I think) to play Jotto--a bit like Mastermind but with 5 letter words. Vint loved to poke around in people's directories to see what they were up to and found my program. He played it a few times, and then collared me to ask me a couple of questions: 1) It seemed to know some of the words he entered but not all -- what was up with that? 2) What sort of AI algorithm was I using for the program to make guesses? (It usually beat the human player.)

Answers: 1) I didn't have a digitized dictionary (it was 1969!) so I hand-entered the five letter words from a pocket dictionary but got tired halfway through so it only knew words starting with a-l. 2) The program would eliminate any words that didn't fit the responses to its guesses so far and then pick a remaining word at random.

Upon hearing my answers Vint walked away in disgust! But years later he gave me a recommendation when I interviewed with Google (it didn't work out for other reasons).

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croes 2 hours ago
Nitpicking: a father of the internet not the father. There is more than one.
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tomhow 2 hours ago
Thanks! We’ve updated the title.
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pipes 2 hours ago
I'm reading "where the wizards stay up late", and I was thinking the same thing. It's difficult to keep track of who is who but I'm pretty certain Cerf has appeared yet. I'm not that far through.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/06848...

(Well actually I'm listening to it not reading, maybe that's why I can't keep track of the protagonists!)

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roschdal 2 hours ago
Al Gore invented the internet.
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hdgvhicv 2 hours ago
Al Gore pushed for public funding to make the intenet what it is before the majority of computer professionals, let alone the public, had heard of it.

> Vinton G. Cerf, a senior vice president at MCI Worldcom and the person most often called "the father of the Internet" for his part in designing the network's common computer language, said in an e-mail interview yesterday, "I think it is very fair to say that the Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the vice president in his current role and in his earlier role as senator."

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tomhow 2 hours ago
Please don’t post snarky or low-substance comments on HN.

As another commenter has pointed out, Vint Cerf himself credits Gore as playing a significant role in enabling the Internet’s emergence. He didn’t claim to have “invented” it.

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djtriptych 43 minutes ago
I took it as a... joke...

Can we post jokes?? Everyone knows Al Gore didn't sit around in an SV garage inventing the internet.

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tosti 22 minutes ago
You can just hide things you don't like, or y'know, live and let live.
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kelnos 13 minutes ago
(The person you are replying to is one of HN's mods.)
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locknitpicker 10 minutes ago
> You can just hide things you don't like, or y'know, live and let live.

The same goes for you. Calling out bullshit and disinformation benefits the whole community,unlike nonsensical remarks. So if you don't appreciate efforts to counter nonsense by bringing facts to the discussion, just sit this one out.

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Vaslo 18 minutes ago
He said he created it though. It’s a quote you can look up.
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throwawaysoxjje 12 minutes ago
For reference the quote is “ During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.”
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raychis 2 hours ago
Thought this was about Tim Berners-Lee, he is the only father I know.
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almost 2 hours ago
Father of the web sure. But HTTP is not the Internet!
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Jaxan 2 hours ago
Which also shows there isn’t “one father”, multiple things (and people) had to come together.
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uwagar 40 minutes ago
he the mother
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TurdF3rguson 3 hours ago
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kulahan 4 hours ago
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cube00 3 hours ago
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tonyhart7 3 hours ago
Imagine creating internet to connect people and live to see the day that most internet traffic is Bot and AI talk to each other is fascinating

I wonder what he feeling about it

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kappi 3 days ago
He made millions last 20 years at Google without doing much and just being a honorary post, not sure what he feels about BS jobs like this
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sollewitt 4 hours ago
Vint took what could have been a prestige emeritus position at Google and turned it into a platform to champion accessibility and “Greyglers”. The man has more class than his suits.
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sph 3 hours ago
Of all the millionaires in the world, I feel he’s earned a little bit of monetary recognition for his achievements.

Had I coinvented TCP/IP, I’d gladly take a bullshit, cushy paying job in my latter half of my career as a ‘reward’

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nubinetwork 2 hours ago
The dude is in his 80s, he should have been allowed to retire decades ago.
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ChrisMarshallNY 28 minutes ago
I was forced to retire, at 55. Good ol’ SV ageism at work. Wasn’t happy about it -at all, but I’m fortunate, in having the means to do so.

That was almost nine years ago, and I actually increased my development work, with the caveat that no one pays me to do it, anymore.

Probably one of the best things that ever happened to me, but I didn’t think so, at the time.

I wish him luck.

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zeafoamrun 49 minutes ago
Lots of people continue working because they enjoy it and to keep busy.
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nubinetwork 11 minutes ago
When I retire, I'm working on my stuff, not anyone else's. :)
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