German AI consortium releases Soofi S, an open 30B model that tops benchmarks
87 points by amai 4 hours ago | 18 comments

jbellis 2 hours ago
It tops benchmarks because it uses them in its training data. https://x.com/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919
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krackers 29 minutes ago
training on the test set is all you need
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sva_ 2 hours ago
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Tostino 25 minutes ago
That's just embarrassing. It keeps happening though.
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sajithdilshan 2 hours ago
Disappointing. Sounds like Volkswagen 2.0
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alephnerd 4 minutes ago
Less like Volkswagen, more like Donut Labs.
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skeledrew 34 minutes ago
> the facility runs entirely on renewable energy, is cooled with water from the Eisbach canal, and feeds waste heat into the surrounding Tucherpark neighborhood.

That's it right there. Show the others how it's done. Can see going forward most model training being done in winter, making for a proper resource recycling ecosystem.

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chis 17 minutes ago
It's funny, my reaction was the exact opposite. Details like this show that they're fundamentally unserious and focused on the wrong things. Imagine if Germany, when developing their automotive industry, spent all their time focusing on reusing the waste heat from production to heat homes instead of just building great cars. They probably would not have sold many cars!
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lejalv 4 minutes ago
Survival! Wrong thing! Stay away! Sell cars, that's what you've got to do, at any price.
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rapind 13 minutes ago
Imagine Canada being on fire due to global warming while you write this comment.
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mft_ 2 hours ago
Great to see more competition in this space, and especially from Europe, but... it's a shame when the benchmarks don't include the current best comparable models. They shows results against Qwen 3.5 and Gemma 3, but Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 have been available for ~three months.
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neonstatic 29 minutes ago
I bet it's doing really well against Llama 3 :)
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doobiedowner 42 minutes ago
How can we get these things to fight each other for sport? Real battle bots
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k__ 2 hours ago
"Fully open source model" with "Long-term, license-free availability for industry"

Nice trick to be not comparable with most other LLMs on the market, open weight or proprietary.

But I think, that's the right way.

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throwa356262 3 hours ago
I think this news is more about the infrastructure than the model.

Either way, happy to see two open models from outside the us-cn duopoly in the same week.

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sajithdilshan 2 hours ago
Better late than never. Germans have entered the chat
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petcat 2 hours ago
More like Nemotron 3 with benchmaxxing enabled has (re-)entered the chat.
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raychis 3 hours ago
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