Why Are There Statues of Beavers on Top of This Oxford Street Shop?
57 points by bookofjoe 5 days ago | 33 comments
saaaaaam 7 hours ago
The other interesting but useless fact is that silk top hats (which as the article points out supersede beaver as the fibre of choice) are no longer made - and the technique for making them is effectively lost because they need specialised looms which are also no longer made.
replyBut if you want to go somewhere super fancy like Ascot and look the part, a silk top hat is de rigueur.
There are now a handful of shops that basically have the entire remaining (good) stock and rent them out for an arm and a leg, and take care of them like rare precious things. Which I guess they are.
amiga386 13 hours ago
What such a hat looks like:
replyhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Black_beaver_hat_-_D...
niccl 5 hours ago
> Factory workers soaked the skins in a orange-coloured solution containing mercuric nitrate; a process called 'carroting'. Vapours from the mercury poisoned the workers' nervous systems, making them prone to tremors, irritability, depression, paranoia, dementia and worse.
replyThis is where the Mad Hatter in Alice Through the Looking-Glass comes from.
healsdata 4 hours ago
Hopefully Buc-ee's doesn't decide to sue them too for trademark infringement.
replynetsharc 6 hours ago
A movie related to beaver hunting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h4P-26kHAw
reply_whiteCaps_ 10 hours ago
If you're interested in learning more about the ecological impact of beavers, I highly recommend "Three Against The Wilderness" by Eric Collier. He homesteaded in BC in the 1930s-60s and encouraged the re-introduction of beavers after being on the brink of extinction here.
replyredwood 12 hours ago
The flag of New York City also features beavers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_New_York_City
replyEdit: it's clearer in the seal of the city https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_New_York_City
dhosek 8 hours ago
My daughter once spent a bunch of time going through all the flag emojis classifying them as stars, animals, trees, religious symbols (and probably some others). We found three flags with maps. Animals were almost exclusively birds, but there was also a sheep, a pair of lions, seahorses, a lobster and a conch.
replysparky_twofort 11 hours ago
The Astor Place subway station also contains several beaver tiles / bas-reliefs, because John Jacob Astor made his fortune with beaver pelts. EDIT: see https://www.nyhistory.org/blogs/beavers-john-jacob-astor
replyconartist6 12 hours ago
Perhaps it's only because we wiped them out so many places that we understand in the slightest the ecological role they play
reply1-more 11 hours ago
$1.2 Million worth of wetland restoration and years of ecological revue skipped https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver-engineered_dam_in_the_C...
replythrowway120385 12 hours ago
I think if we hadn't we would've figured it out anyway. Someone would have found them interesting enough to study.
replyconartist6 7 hours ago
You think nobody found them interesting enough to study when they were being made into hats?
replyIt's hard to raise the alarm about a harm that has not yet come to pass
But outside of here it's just a footnote to a fashion trend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapline#Registered_traplines
Indeed, the "beaver as relevant tool as major driver" does actually not exist in schools in EU mainland; the chance is higher you hear about the porks brought by first European-immigrants that they used for food production because of their fast reproduction numbers.
(and porks are easy to deal with, they eat everything; Once I heard someone from crime enforcement saying: "the perfect murdery would be to feed the dead body to a herd of porks because they would even eat the teeth from the body")
We also have major feral pig problems in parts of the US.
I guess fish/chicken were for peasants at the time
https://youtu.be/_Yvmg4wcfzY?is=paeV1wjPaF2c6WZB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pickton
Spain certainly wasn't exporting silver from the New World to Europe before shipping it on to China; they shipped it directly there.
Plausibly some agency (Hudson Bay company?) had a monopoly on beaver trade and this did not apply to sea otter, or maybe the story isn't quite right or there were other economic reasons why beavers to Asia as a concept wasn't exploited.
In true pedantic HN fashion I am currently vacationing on the west coast of Mexico and learned this fact yesterday.