DDoS against Norwegian government IT infrastructure – status
76 points by e12e 3 hours ago | 53 comments

lschueller 24 minutes ago
I'd guess someone in the us fat-fingered ip ranges and mixed up 2.144.0.0/14 (Iran) with 2.148.0.0/14 (Norway)
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TacticalCoder 6 minutes ago
Or someone entered 2.144.0.0/14 but on a machine without ECC and a bit-flip happened, turning it into 2.148.0.0/14.
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just_some_user 3 hours ago
The actual interesting part about such an attack is not that something is down, but rather why someone would run it. A lot of DDoS originates from script kiddies, but such attacks are usually very short lived as attacks are expensive. So which actor would actually benefit from downing the Norwegian government?
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Retr0id 3 hours ago
DDoS tends to be monetised as DDoS-as-a-service. Taking down "significant" services is good advertising. Either that, or they plan to extort the Norwegian government.
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just_some_user 3 hours ago
But for such a "proof of power" a short attack which takes the service down once is enough, long attacks are not so common and actually require some work from the attacker
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Retr0id 2 hours ago
If the attack doesn't last long, bystanders can't know whether it was trivially mitigated by the victim.

A shorter attack won't make as many news headlines, either.

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devin 2 hours ago
Unless part of the social proof is that mitigation is more difficult.
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InTheArena 3 hours ago
What do they benefit from taking down any government, NGO or civic work program? American systems, as well as larger European systems are constantly attacked. I've seen the same traffic. Fire walling off China, North Korea and smaller eastern European countries is a must if you ever plan to expose any internet exposed services.
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roflmaostc 3 hours ago
is there actually any source those attacks are really done by "script kiddies"?

More likely this more politically motivated and backed up by money and more capable groups

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just_some_user 3 hours ago
Yes, thats what I meant
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cantalopes 3 hours ago
Imo russia most likely
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giwook 3 hours ago
Probably a country that lost to Norway in the World Cup.
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cynicalsecurity 3 hours ago
Really, you have no one in mind? Someone who is sending hundreds of bombing drones daily to Ukraine, killing civilian population, women and children, and who is eager to send a message to NATO countries any way possible?
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motbus3 3 hours ago
That is much less effective than every other manner they tested on the past few years such as shadow fleets, ghost satellites etc.

Up to the moment it has not been the operation adopted which would make it weird.

On who would do it then, anyone who benefits from instability. From corporations trying to sell flocked uped sytems, politicians, etc.

There is one south american country who was attacked exactly this way before their head of the government was kidnapped.

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cynicalsecurity 2 hours ago
You don't understand Kremlin's mentality. Any even little nasty thing they can do to the West makes them giggle like Doctor Evil. "Oh, a NATO country's government infra was not protected from DDoS? Let's have fun, haha!" You are dealing with story book villains. I know, this sounds so ridiculous it's hard to believe someone can actually be like this. But then the reality check hits.
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esseph 2 hours ago
It hasn't been majorly like that in twenty years.

Botnets are services now, a business. They gain customers by their effectiveness and resilience.

For $$50-100 you can deny service to a lot of big sites and services.

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iwontberude 3 hours ago
those script kiddies control botnets in foreign countries and use them to attack stuff just bc. its not their compute, so no marginal cost to them
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tuatoru 3 hours ago
The UK. It wants to steal Norway's vast stores of electricity.
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Crunchified 2 hours ago
"vast stores of electricity"?
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QuantumNomad_ 2 hours ago
Electricity production in Norway is predominantly hydroelectric.

When it rains dams fill up. The water is drained into shafts with turbines, and electricity is generated.

However, even though we are big on hydroelectricity percentage wise I’m not sure it’s all that vast an amount of electricity on a global scale. We are a pretty small country after all.

According to Wikipedia, the Norwegian electricity sector had 40.26 GW installed capacity as of 2021 and was producing 157.113 TWh in the same year. [1]

Great Britain had 74.8 GW installed capacity in 2023 and was producing 292.7 TWh in 2023. [2]

France was producing 537.7 TWh in 2020. [3]

Germany was producing 488.5 TWh in 2024. [4]

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Norway

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_in_Great_Britain

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_France

[4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Germany

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Crunchified 2 hours ago
It stored energy. It's not stored electricity.
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aaron695 2 hours ago
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speerer 52 minutes ago
There's some interesting commentry at https://www.techtimes.com/articles/322754/20260803/norway-id... , which suggests that the widespread outage is due to a single point of failure:

> ID-Porten: When One Gateway Controls Everything

> At the center of the disruption is ID-porten — the national login gateway operated by Norway's Digitaliseringsdirektoratet (Digdir), the government agency responsible for public-sector digitalization. ID-porten functions as the single sign-on portal through which Norwegian citizens authenticate themselves to access public digital services.

It seems to be a corporate service provider that's a dependency for many other services.

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p0w3n3d 3 hours ago
There has been also DDoS against my friend's employer ISP. He had to work a lot to mitigate. There was a random request before
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spapas82 2 hours ago
Would the attack be successful is the Norwegian government used a way to protect itself against ddos like cloudflare or akamai?
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leke 3 hours ago
The bus card ride purchase system was down today in my part of Finland. I wonder if it is related.
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crest 52 minutes ago
<hat type="tinfoil">I wonder who wants the Norwegian gov infrastructure between a TLS terminating proxy service</hat>
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kachnuv_ocasek 3 hours ago
Bets on which AI lab it is this time?
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AtNightWeCode 2 hours ago
Many important services with problems. Ouch. My guess is that the root cause is misconfiguration rather than an attack.
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roschdal 3 hours ago
The Internet was supposed to withstand a nuclear attack
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buildbot 2 hours ago
"The internet" is currently fine, besides Norwegian government services.

Also something designed to withstand something does not imply it survives other somethings.

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pprotas 3 hours ago
Guess a nuclear attack would actually lessen the load on the global internet, rather than increase it - like a DDOS would!
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vee-kay 2 hours ago
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nubg 3 hours ago
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motbus3 3 hours ago
Could be, but it does not look like any of the ways they done before. Anyone who benefits from instability would be at win, from internal political competition, foreign companies trying to sell flocked up systems and the list could be huge.

Not saying it was not who you think it was, Im just saying it does not have enough information yet to be the only explanation or at least the most obvious one.

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cyanydeez 3 hours ago
could just be openai.
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coffinbirth 3 hours ago
Your comment is dumb and disgusting. You're comparing Putin with Hitler, thereby showing that you don't know that relatives of Putin were killed by Hitler's troops, e.g. his brother during the siege of Leningrad (1+ million civilians killed), his grandmother was killed as a civilian, his uncles perished during frontline service and his father was severely wounded[1].

By the way, numerous high ranking German politicians regularly also do this kind of comparison, showing the lack of knowledge about the history of their own country. Can anyone show me JUST A SINGLE MEMORIAL in Germany for the 20+ million (lower bound estimate) people killed on the eastern front? Yes, there is one in the heart of Berlin, which the Soviets built in 1945!

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Vladimir_Putin

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CursedSilicon 2 hours ago
Whispers

Hey, hey

Did you know

Multiple things can in fact, be bad

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coffinbirth 2 hours ago
I immediately knew that you are an U.S. American, because of you total lack of knowledge about European history. It's always the same old story, Americans and their lack of education about global topics.
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rcxdude 2 hours ago
This is a non-sequitur.
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CursedSilicon 2 hours ago
Australian but go off :)
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matkoniecz 2 hours ago
As someone from Poland I want to confirm that multiple things can be in fact bad.

Being invaded by Nazi Germany and days later by their ally, Russia was example of such case.

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justsomehnguy 2 hours ago
As someone from Poland you are conveniently ignore what your country did years before that.

-webster.com/dictionary/polonization

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matkoniecz 2 hours ago
At no point I claimed that Poland was land of saints and cuddly plush bears. See also Bereza Kartuska.

What you linked does not change at all that being invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany and Soviet Union was absolutely awful and both were clearly evil.

(and if you want to start oppression olympics, then yes: what Germany and Russia did was far worse than what Poland did, for that matter what Ukrainian OUN UPA did was far worse than what Poland did)

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justsomehnguy 56 minutes ago
It hurts what you actually was on the same level but got the short end, eh?
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indemnity 2 hours ago
Maybe you should stop invading other countries if these comparisons hurt your feelings buddy.
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coffinbirth 2 hours ago
I always find it unbelievable how people do not know or just forget about what happened in the east 85 years ago. Really sad. This is one of the primary reasons why people in the west don't understand why Russia cannot accept Ukraine in NATO. It was NATO that expanded to the east, contrary to the agreements after the fall of the Soviet Union. Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.
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anon48293 2 hours ago
Ukraine sought NATO membership AFTER Russia attacked in 2014, not before.

Since you’re such a history buff, what did Russia promise when Ukraine got rid of their nukes?

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coffinbirth 2 hours ago
> Ukraine got rid of their nukes

Russia is the official successor state of the Soviet Union, the nukes never belonged to Ukraine in the first place. It was Ukraine that first attacked LPR and DPR in 2014. It was Ukraine that forbid Russian language, culture, church, etc... to Russians living in eastern Ukraine. By the way, Odessa will return to Russia.

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anon48293 24 minutes ago
Answer the question. What did Russia state in the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances?
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justsomehnguy 49 minutes ago
> NATO Action Plan membership (Georgia and Ukraine) 4 April 2008

Sure, sure a fresh "anon" account.

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SukadarBukadar 2 hours ago
Let me tell you what's actually "really sad": Bucha as a response to sovereign country's attempt to join NATO. Having a hostile country as a neighbour isn't an excuse for starting a war with it.
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coffinbirth 59 minutes ago
Following this logic Mexico and Canada can both join a military alliance with China and Russia, I guess the U.S. must accept that, both are sovereign country's after all...
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matkoniecz 58 minutes ago
And if in response USA would invade and start massacring civilians (like Russia did), that would be in fact evil.
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antonvs 2 hours ago
> Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.

Russia, as a hostile nation not interested in participating in global peace, doesn’t get to decide such things.

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matkoniecz 2 hours ago
> what happened in the east 85 years ago

Russia got attacked by their ally, Nazi Germany. After 87 years ago in 1939 they invaded together Poland.

> Really sad.

Yeah, Russia going on to win WW II was quite sad. Admittedly better than Nazis winning but pity they have not both lost.

> contrary to the agreements after the fall of the Soviet Union

which supposed agreements? Were they any more binding than Budapest Memorandum?

> Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.

And Russia in Ukraine is unacceptable for us.

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