World Labs Is Joining AMD
124 points by mfiguiere 3 hours ago | 42 comments

LarsDu88 45 minutes ago
This was absurdly soon.

I was also shocked by how quickly AMD acquired Talaas. AMD may be preparing for the next way (ultra fast inference, and embodied AI inference)

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ahartmetz 38 minutes ago
AMD has acquired "AI stuff" for several billions at this point, yet somehow, doing "AI stuff" on their GPU/NPU stack still seems to be troublesome. Well, that is what I read from others anyway. Inference with llama.cpp on AMD GPUs pretty much just works.
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amelius 31 minutes ago
I bet soon enough we can just ask AI to port stuff from CUDA to whatever language AMD is using. This is how nVidia will become a victim of their own success.
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wmf 19 minutes ago
It's called Hyperloom.
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fragmede 16 minutes ago
And then what?
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nwah1 12 minutes ago
Then all software moats become shallow
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fragmede 11 minutes ago
Fortunately for Nvidia, they sell hardware and give away software.
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echelon 40 minutes ago
Other embodied labs are less gamer-y/consumer-y. WorldLabs didn't know whether to be a consumer tool, a creative tooling company, a robotics research lab.

Investors who have seen their materials told me this was their direct feeling.

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cyanydeez 41 minutes ago
If the sigmoid approacheth, the first one to get a good model into silicon, at acceptable benchmarks and silicon rejection %, will make some truckloads. Most people don't need SOTA for most of their problems.

the TAM might be a real number, but the addressee might already be walking around, such as any qwen3.8 model. Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is churning out some fascinating capabilities as we speak.

There's only so many math problems you can solve without ROI.

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Mr_P 31 minutes ago
Congrats to the team on such a successful exit!

I'm curious how much the recent AI 3D modeling trend (Astra post-trained to use Blender) would have impacted this.

World Labs' entire tech stack becomes potentially obsolete when anyone can prompt GPT/Claude to create a simulation-ready 3D model from a photograph.

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jtfrench 15 minutes ago
My guess is their tech can be used for spatial reasoning training environments, which gives a value beyond just output of a 3D scene.
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calebhwin 2 hours ago
Neolabs keep moving down the stack.

Neoclouds want to do neolab things and now chipmakers want to do neolab things

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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago
> Neoclouds want to do neolab things and now chipmakers want to do neolab things

We don't know what the right integrations are. Is it the chipmakers with the toolmakers? The front-end makers with the model designers? That's the current set-up. But there might be another industrial configuration that is superior.

AMD is still struggling to establish itself in AI. That makes it a worthy competitor. Its agglomeration of talent and resources is probably, knowing little else, good.

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AbuAssar 2 hours ago
Is a 2-year-old company worth 8 billion USD?
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kylecazar 2 hours ago
The past couple of years have really driven home the fact that a company is worth what someone will pay for it
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jtfrench 14 minutes ago
And that "Attention is all you need" applies to financial markets as well.
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singhkays 42 minutes ago
just like NFTs :)
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ianm218 38 minutes ago
AMD grew their revenue 50% last quarter from the year prior, for 11.5B in revenue. If this team can help continue that or grow that then yes - the amount of money involved here is insane.
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Glemmlko 42 minutes ago
Honestly, I think this 'billion' number is also just the ball park for companies you need to pay if you want to buy them.

OpenRouter was sold for 7.5 Billion.

Lets just accept, that these people don't evaluate a company by value but by magic market "what is a sum someone needs to pay for buying a company and what company is somehow worth it to actually buy for this type of money but more in a sense of adding this to your portfolio"

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tintor 33 minutes ago
Could be if they are pre-revenue.
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avaer 2 hours ago
A name like Fei-Fei Li is probably worth a chunk of that (I'm not saying I agree, but that's probably the thinking).

It's a public bet, not a valuation based on product economics. Billion dollar bets follow different rules (and I'm not saying it's sane).

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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago
> A name like Fei-Fei Li is probably worth a chunk of that

You're right. Her bio writes like an OP self-insert character's [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fei-Fei_Li

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esalman 2 hours ago
Given a lot of proprietary data, how would one go about starting training a world model?
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modeless 2 hours ago
Step 1: raise a billion dollars. Step 2: send a billion dollars to someone with GPUs.
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porphyra 2 hours ago
Funnily enough now you can get the billion dollars from NVIDIA themselves.
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drusepth 2 hours ago
But only if you promise to spend the billion dollars on something NVIDIA is selling
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walrus01 2 hours ago
Step 3) Underpants ???
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walrus01 2 hours ago
I don't know about the training, but in terms of the the 'a lot of data', probably one of the inputs would be something like the geospatial data that Niantic has collected from all of the world's Ingress and Pokemon Go players, correlated with other more basic mapping data and things like google street view type camera data.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=pokemon+g...

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imnotr0b0t 2 hours ago
I wonder where this will lead
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autonomousErwin 2 hours ago
I'd bet world models will likely become the new "media" replacing tv, movies, music, video games etc.
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tintor 30 minutes ago
Unlikely they will outcompete human artists and engineers using AIs to create those same types of media: tv, movies, music, games.
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jimbokun 26 minutes ago
Yes, because consumers just LOVE to pay for anything associated with AI!
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jtfrench 11 minutes ago
It'll be very interesting to see how the dust settles after this window of AI IPOs and acquisitions closes.
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porphyra 2 hours ago
World Labs is really cool. The 3D reconstruction from only a handful of frames is on another level.
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avaer 2 hours ago
Assuming this means AMD wants to jumpstart competition with NV on a model/simulation ecosystem (which NV has been doing for ~a decade). Probably has at least something to do with NV acquiring HF.

I'm not sure how much things like Omniverse are used, but NV has put out some really interesting stuff in the space (like for example ARTY for a somewhat recent example).

Overall it seems like a financial vote of confidence for "world models" (whatever that means, I still don't know). But it could also mean the death of the interesting things WL was doing with Marble + Atlas. It's hard to read PR.

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binsquare 2 hours ago
it was also likely difficult to do what WL was looking to do without significant amount of compute.

Think it's a good match

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wmf 2 hours ago
If the ROCm team can't get enough compute it doesn't bode well for World Labs.
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lairv 2 hours ago
WL was probably mostly using NVIDIA compute though?
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mathisfun123 2 hours ago
how to quickly make a couple million dollars these days: start a startup and then get acquired by AMD in a few years.
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DANmode 27 minutes ago
The AMD part looks too specific, but I’ll have to check the math.
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