Why I Wrote PGP (1991, revised 1999)
54 points by GaryBluto 2 days ago | 12 comments

adastra22 2 hours ago
A well-intentioned ideal from a bygone era.
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Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago
Good ideas demand to be free. =3
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tptacek 57 minutes ago
There's a good idea in PGP, and a very bad one. The good idea --- and PGP genuinely deserves credit here --- is end-user, consumer-facing strong cryptography tools. That's now universally accepted and has been for decades. The bad idea is a tool with PGP's design, of "cryptographic jack-of-all-trades". PGP's design has aged like milk, and PGP itself is a security liability in almost every system that hosts it.
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voooduuuuu 35 minutes ago
Another thing is also that email itself was not designed with encryption in mind and because it is decentralized and backwards-compatible it is hard to enforce new rules (everyone should use PGP).

But PGP is useful if both sender and receiver agree to use PGP.

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woodruffw 17 minutes ago
> But PGP is useful if both sender and receiver agree to use PGP.

Anecdotally: this works until you add a third person who responds to the thread in plain text, with everything threaded beneath. Or when you do that by accident.

Applied cryptographers will tell you to use Signal or any other E2EE chat.

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user3939382 9 minutes ago
Signal isn’t owned by the users and independent of third parties the way PGP/GPG is so regardless of who will or won’t suggest a substitute it’s not.
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m348e912 52 minutes ago
>PGP itself is a security liability in almost every system that hosts it.

Elaborate

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riedel 31 minutes ago
I guess the code base has really become a bit messy over time with all that parsing and different crypto algorithms. But the attack surface can be significantly reduced by using sq or even better stateless sqop.
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some_furry 48 minutes ago
https://gpg.fail/

https://www.latacora.com/blog/2019/07/16/the-pgp-problem

Recommendations: https://soatok.blog/2024/11/15/what-to-use-instead-of-pgp/

We don't need to keep elaborating or re-litigating the same discussion. The PGP idea of "one tool to rule them all" is a terrible cryptography design, and the world is better off the sooner we stop trying to make it work.

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BeetleB 2 hours ago
> In 2013, an article on "Zimmermann's Law" quoted Phil Zimmermann as saying "The natural flow of technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier"
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dylan604 43 minutes ago
The biggest issue of using PGP was using PGP. You were pretty nerdy to be on the internet back then, but even then using PGP was beyond what the majority of people wanted to do. Exchanging keys was problematic. Writing text in one app, encrypting in another app, copying encrypted back to an email was just tiresome.

I'm still glad that it existed as its mere existence seems to have pushed things in the right direction as far as protecting everyone's ability to use encryption if they chose. It just never became the panacea it was envisioned to be.

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__MatrixMan__ 15 minutes ago
There were (are? it's been a while) many PGP users on the various darkweb markets. It was great fun teaching people to use it and actually having a community to use it with.

It was pretty awkward to later emerge as the PGP expert at work. I was at that time a bit shy about explaining how I got so comfortable with it.

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datas 40 minutes ago
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