Archive of Our Own
65 points by debo_ 4 days ago | 13 comments
causesothere 2 hours ago
AO3 is wonderful. I strongly believe that humans have tens of thousands of years of telling and retelling stories. The Odyssey isn't one book, it's something that was composed and collected and retold.
replyThe idea that a company could "own" a story and the characters within is recent. Very recent.
IMO, AO3 continues the human tradition of retelling stories, and we should celebrate that.
arjie 45 minutes ago
There's no way to just download all of it, is there? You have to scrape it slowly? I don't mind doing it that way, but flat downloads would be pretty neat. How do mirrors work? Do they run read-through caches?
replymagicmicah85 19 minutes ago
I have to imagine that's not available to avoid training by commercial entities. https://www.transformativeworks.org/ai-and-data-scraping-on-...
replySeattle3503 18 minutes ago
I feel like I am coming in to the middle of a discussion. Towards what end?
replyvalorzard 2 hours ago
If you all are interested in fanfic, may I direct you to learn about one of my favorite pieces of internet art, my immortal?
And, if you want to delve into the history behind this work of art, oh boy:
https://youtu.be/0JodBp-r9jM
replyballmerpoint 2 hours ago
I disapprove of how much underage material they host. Free speech absolutism runs head-first into its internal contradictions.
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I also love another of their programs, Fanlore[0], a treasure trove of obscure internet fanfiction works, social groupings, and tropes. Sort of a combination oral history + TVTropes-esque fanfic breakdown.
Fanfiction is a beautiful thing and a great way to stretch creative writing muscles that can be helpful by being a bit less of a blank canvas than needing to invent characters and locations. Of course, a TON of fanfiction does invent, liberally, but I've seen people insist they can't write creatively, then make something beautiful when you ask them to rewrite a scene in their favorite show or book that they were disappointed with and boom, they just wrote their first fix-it fic[1].
Also, praise be for AO3 having no news feed/algorithm, and instead an incredibly intricate tagging system. Makes it easy to find what you want, avoid what you don't (see free speech commitment), and feel liberated from algorithmic exhaustion.
[0]: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Main_Page
[1]: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Fix-it
Isn’t there an “original work” category?
Yeah, now you have a worse problem. A few people like the first chapter you posted, now "oh shit I'd better come up with something good".
A curse on the OP. I was trying so hard to stop thinking about this today.