Hacker reverses Samsung TV, finds on-board AI listening OpenAI account suspended
90 points by testing22321 4 hours ago | 15 comments

MisterMunchkin 4 minutes ago
Remember guys, if they are reading it for wrongthink, they are reading it for industrial espionage.

Anthropic and openAI just announced they’re spinning out competitors to their biggest customers… right after ingesting all of their IP and contracts. Do the math.

(Or don’t, because they’ve been caught stealing math research)

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tintor 2 hours ago
This looks very bad on OpenAI.

What is next? Power and water company suspending your account if your home and car are not streaming enough telemetry.

I am glad that open models are closing on frontier.

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technion 49 minutes ago
Claude is absurdly sensitive to anything that touches cyber, and threatens bans if it gets a whiff of a pentest going on. it wouldnt surprise me if openai had a similar approach.

Yesterday I joked that claude gave me a cyber stop for asking how to make the anime girl video for an exploit, but it was a thing that happened. Meanwhile im trying to convince people around me that having grok nudify people isnt "fine" just because grok says it is. Its wild where the lines a drawn.

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3abiton 2 hours ago
This is again will be very funny race to watch. Right now you can fairly do lots of reverse enginnering or "hacking" with off the shelf Chinese models, and they are very capable (GLM3 for example) which can be run locally if you stomach the hardware. Tools like rea are also becoming more popular. If openai continues to be pedantic, they will lose the technical base given how close is the gap getting.
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kmac_ 19 minutes ago
The company I work for has a plan B to switch to alternative, self-hosted models if providers pull off strange moves, such as drastic pricing changes. We have already switched from one provider to another once, and we do not want to get burned again. We do not reverse engineer, just regular development.
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ada-h00k 2 hours ago
If OpenAI really banned him for that reason, that would be pretty stupid. If you can no longer use an LLM for reverse engineering without worrying about your account, that drastically reduces its value.
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luma 59 minutes ago
Dog bark and baby crying detection are advertised features for SmartThings integrations. Door bell and door knocking are also included, this is surfaced directly if you hook the TV or sound bar into SmartThings.
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tkel 2 hours ago
from his twitter account:

> if your samsung TV model doesnt have a microphone, it will look for connected devices with one, such as a soundbar or a connected bluetooth device. this gets shipped off to bixby.

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throwa356262 41 minutes ago
Is this not the expected function when you use bixby?

(Not saying people should use bixby mind you)

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Hugsun 2 hours ago
I'm curious if someone has started cataloging these cases. These spying TVs seem like a common industry practice.
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jeeva 54 minutes ago
I believe GamersNexus were talking about doing more exhaustive testing across different brands after their video on LG models specifically.
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kjsingh 22 minutes ago
so is the hardware mic-off button on Samsung TV any good?
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znpy 22 minutes ago
so glad i bought a dumb tv.

i remember going store to store in search of one.

gg me, that was a smart move.

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Den_VR 57 minutes ago
The tile references on-board ai. “On-board ai” here is automatic content recognition. Imagine my disappointment
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pprotas 7 minutes ago
AI is simply an if/else statement in disguise, you didn’t know that?
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