Why I Am a Programmer
120 points by jruohonen 6 hours ago | 36 comments

chr15m 2 hours ago
Conan the Barbarian and Below the Root on our Apple IIe. Tiny worlds behind the glowing Orange CRT. How do I make something like this? My mum (lol) helped me figure out how to get keyboard input in BASIC. I made a little game where an O character chases your X character around the screen. Core game loop. Browsing pirate CGA games at the warung in Pondok Indah, well outside the jurisdiction of US law. Glorious rack upon rack of tiny worlds to explore. Death Track and Prince of Persia. More BASIC and that gorilla throwing bananas. Later on the Multiline BBS. Talking late into the night with tech weirdos twice my age. All manner of mind bending ideas. Newsgroups. Punks and skaters and cypherpunks. Predicting what was coming, seeing the future we expected unfolding. Downloading Commander Keen over FTP. WinSock and Netscape. My first homepage. Downloading Linux and getting it running. Configuring XFree86 modelines all night lol. Turbo Pascal and VAX VMS at uni. My first job coding. Hacking out web backends in gnarly ass Perl. No databases just blatting and slurping comma delimited text files lol. Getting paid to do the most exciting thing there was to do, all day. Magic.
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saulpw 3 minutes ago
I just produced a restoration/translation of Below The Root last month! Check it out, hope it brings back some memories: https://root.saul.pw.
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sirsinsalot 2 hours ago
That sounds like my childhood and teen years. It feels so far away culturally. I miss the sub culture and counter culture.
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dicroce 12 minutes ago
Denthor got me into programming too.... Learned a TON from him and started to actually get real cool things working... I even contacted him after I got my first job... Was a totally cool guy. I wonder what happened to him?
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christophilus 3 hours ago
For me, it was the creative, puzzle-solving, game-like nature of it. Then I got my first job, and I had 100% autonomy, so a friend of mine and I got to solve real problems for real people in the real world. It was a rush. Making people’s lives better through software is still the biggest motivation for me.
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cmrx64 2 hours ago
(btw what ended up being the resolution of your great grandfather’s ring? I was flipping through your history to see what you work on :)
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1n3nt0r 2 hours ago
I took a course at a college in '79 using fortran on a mainframe (though I was just in middle school at the time). I can't say I understood all of the incantations required (IBM had JCL), but realized it was "magical" and wanted to be part of this tribe.

I saved up to buy a VIC-20 (a 4K computer) and later a C64, writing games for both. Those were magical days I will look back to fondly. That sparkle has not left, though I sometimes miss the purity of near-bare-metal systems of yesteryear.

Like some in my generation, I lived through and contributed to some of the early phases of computing, pre-internet, and am altogether grateful for it.

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Krei-se 3 hours ago
I started programming on my schools CASIO Graphics Calculator.

It was slow but allowed some text based games we then shared. No internet so did it all from trial and error.

Then ... i wanted a 3D Cube rotating. At 15/16 this was a bit too much i guess i had no idea about rotation matrices back then and deemed myself a bit dense.

Never got around doing 3D stuff at work, only databases all the time. I dabbled some with ThreeJS but i guess i was still haunted.

BUT THEN. Geometric algebra! So smooth. If you like tables and had problems with stuff like cross products or quaternions, didnt like copy pasting rotation matrices, etc. YOU WILL LOVE geometric algebra! It's like you meet 2 tables on a FK and bam its a volume (highly simplified!!)

Just my 2 cents. Don't write yourself off if you did not do 1337 demos in primary school on a tamagotchi.

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gnabgib 6 hours ago
(2015) Even links to the HN discussion at the time (89 points, 59 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8837545
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kristianp 45 minutes ago
I don't understand why HN chops off the leading "Why", it completely changes the intent of the title.

Edit: removing reference to the leading "How", that seems to be done editorially by the poster of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50227356

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burnedbyhell 2 hours ago
I started on a Ti-83 and better yet could take other programs online and load them and then modify to my desire.

When the teacher said show your work I wrote out the program I made to calculate the equation. They banned calculators altogether.

Once there was a computer I traded sleep to stay on it. I worked professionally for almost 3 decades and it ultimately cost me my health and mental health. It was often my own insecurities and anxiety that led me up the ladder.

I left the field and went to work for something I believe in and my tech skills are like wizardry to these folks.

There is a lot of blue sky to explore for people in tech.

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anon7725 2 hours ago
What field did you go into?
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josh-sematic 47 minutes ago
TI-83 was also my gateway drug into programming. Good memories!
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kkotak 3 hours ago
Beautifully written! Thanks for sharing. I share a lot the emotional journey you described in my youth and also why I chose to be a programmer. The world felt so small during that time and something you could wrap your arms around and the community was your family. I don't know how the pre-teens of today percieve computing and technology, but I'd venture it's very different. Hope, though, that they feel the same rush with opportunities with AI that we felt with computing and the nascent connectivity of our times.
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alfiedotwtf 31 minutes ago
I’m sad that today’s youth don’t have a chance to dabble and pull things apart like we did :(
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ifh-hn 3 hours ago
I don't consider myself a programmer, I started programming in my late 30s after I got my first office job. I learned it to automate all the bullshit I needed to do.

Wish now I'd started earlier. It's like having a special power if your actual job isn't programming. I like getting the computer to do my job for me.

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whizzter 4 hours ago
Lovely, I remember the first cracktro that blew my mind long before I actually got in touch with the demoscene.

It was an ACE cracktro for International Karate that was putting huge things in the borders, something about it stuck to my mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ODIb5r_fS8

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throw-qqqqq 2 hours ago
Nice “chiptune version” of Das Model by Kraftwerk!
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crypto137 3 hours ago
I remember my first job out of uni, I had to convert what I thought was 2000 files from an old php site to gatsby. Mainly taking the page dump data and turning them into Yaml pages for static generation. It took me DAYS.

Last day, I realize it wasn't 2000. It was 8000, and there was not a snowballs chance in hell I could do the remaining 6000 in time for the deadline. So I went online, found pieces on stack overflow for this disgusting nodejs script that was 8 for loops deep, and then ran it against all the files. It took like.... a second, and all the files were just done. Poof, instant.

I got a job as a programmer and never looked back. The last ~decade has been a wild ride of highs and lows, but I still love doing it every day. There's just something deeply satisfying of taking an idea, and the computer just doing it.

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jbloggs777 5 hours ago
We could have crossed paths back in the day. Those 25c unlimited local calls felt like such a steal.
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alfiedotwtf 54 minutes ago
OP here: I’m now spending more time in AI agents than in emacs these days, but I can honestly say that I’m having even more fun now given that I’m able to build things within days that would have taken me months!

… but don’t give me hate… I still code with my hands :)

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agentultra 51 minutes ago
Something like this for me. I was on an Amiga. Later “downgraded,” to Intel PCs. But by that point i was already hooked.

BBSs were how I learned everything because there wasn’t really anybody near me in my little rural area of the world that had a computer let alone knew how to program them. Internet wasn’t public yet, just getting out of the lab.

What I grew up in was the counter-cultural era of tech. Distrust of authority. Freedom of expression. Queer. Weird. Against the War on Drugs, neoliberalism, police, all that.

Demos were huge. Scrolls were also huge. Mods were huge. Good times. When I think of back then I still hold out hope for today.

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holoduke 3 hours ago
Jobs come and jobs go. Sure that engineering will become even bigger, but the job as a literal code types is becoming obsolete.
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zer00eyz 3 hours ago
LOL

My first program was in 2nd grade on an Apple IIe in basic. It was a program to check if a word was worth a dollar (a=1, b=2, c=3...)

It became a family activity (every one taking turns at the computer) every night to just type in words and see what they came out to. It was all very boring.

I was sure I was going to win.

I lost (well 2nd place), to the kid with 6 older brothers, who had that many years of building out the family list.

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jdw64 3 hours ago
Reading this, I thought back to what made me want to become a programmer, and for me it was games too. Why did it look so cool when I was young? I don’t remember well what game it was. I wasn’t the Doom generation, and it wasn’t Pokémon either. I think it was a game called Hegemonia-region of iron. It was a cool spaceship game set in space.
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irishcoffee 44 minutes ago
Where I landed was as such: I hated the very concept of AI. My post history, if you look, deliberately referred to the tech as LLMs, and I mostly still do.

I've been behind the 8-ball at $dayjob, for reasons I don't have a say in, nor does anyone in my entire CoC. Vendors are delayed, we have hard shipping deadlines on our end.

Work pays for an expensive "AI" sub. I used it because I'm in a jam and deadlines are tight.

It worked. I'm a decent engineer/programmer. The tech saved me a month, at least. I think the money around all this tech is wrong and bad, but in a vacuum the tech works.

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nikharminds 6 hours ago
Bro what is this? :D
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jruohonen 6 hours ago
History.
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RomanPushkin 5 hours ago
%s/Am/Was/g

Best case, we are sitting in a tree, sawing off the very branch we're sitting on. Like we're having fun at a bar, never knowing when this particular one will close. While watching our friends, family, and everyone else out there lose their jobs, mentally we're all ready for that Friday 9 am "three person 1:1"

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quasarj 2 hours ago
Technically he didn't claim to be _employed_ as a programmer. I'll always be a programmer. But of course my job will be gone soon. Not sure what I'll do after that.. I'm too old for a new career.
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GeorgeWBasic 2 hours ago
Maybe the economic system of just letting billionaires do anything they want to is not the one we should be using anymore.
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bigstrat2003 2 hours ago
Hang in there as best you can. Contrary to what AI bros on HN claim, LLMs can't actually program worth a damn. In time the deficiency will become too great to ignore, and companies will be replacing their models with humans. No telling how long that will take, but this is going to get walked back just like outsourcing to cheap Indian firms got walked back in the first decade of the century.
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sirsinsalot 2 hours ago
I made lots of cash undoing the Indian outsourcing mess.

Ive also been deep in AI. Not only is AI inadequate for well engineered software, I think treating programming as a language translation task between spec and code boring. They're even worse for research, rabbit holes and bad lines of reasoning.

Im amazed people don't see how much smoke and mirrors even the frontier models and harnesses are using to mask the fact that they're reasonable sounding bullshit machines.

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GeorgeWBasic 2 hours ago
I really hope you are right.
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GeorgeWBasic 2 hours ago
People here are happy to downvote you, but I note that none of them have any kind of rebuttal for what you're saying.
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suddenlybananas 2 hours ago
It's because he's being an asshole.
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