Getting debug access on a Brother printer over Telnet
113 points by inventor7777 4 days ago | 32 comments

kalleboo 5 hours ago
The interesting part to me in there is seeing a TRON kernel in the wild.

In the 80's TRON was Japan's bet for the future of operating systems, but it just lived on as an embedded kernel in cars, printers and other industrial applications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRON_project

https://www.osnews.com/story/145872/japan-tried-to-build-an-...

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contingencies 3 hours ago
1982: The movie Tron came out.

1984: The Japanese launched an OS called Tron.

1989: US officials feared Tron could undercut US dominance in computers.

2026: Tron is mostly found dominating printers, and an AI far beyond anything envisaged in the movie Tron explains it to humans.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

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MayeulC 4 hours ago
This is something I have been wondering for a while: do custom laser printer firmware projects exist? I'm mostly interested in that to remove toner manufacturer checks, and fix a few annoyances in CUPS and the printers' postscript drivers.

I imagine that is shouldn't be too complicated to support more HW in the agentic age.

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DaSHacka 56 minutes ago
This but especially for the tracking dots. In the age of LLMs, I doubt it would be that difficult, so long as you don't hit guardrails.
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jordand 3 hours ago
The article linked at the bottom of this is a much more interesting read: https://starlabs.sg/blog/2025/11-breaking-into-a-brother-mfc...
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minraws 3 hours ago
I have managed to find zero-days in my Canon with some effort over the last few weeks, me and a cheap model, well it was never really that hard, but I feel like it has given me more time.

I am considering reverse engineering the entire thing, I honestly don't know if that's worth it given I can connect an rpi to the system and get everything done via my own app now.

And keeping printer off of wifi networks was the best decision I ever made imho. Either way printers suck, but I like them so much as a technology, converting digital to physical is such a great thing.

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lp92 35 minutes ago
It's really surprising we have open source 3D printers with way more complex kinematics, parts, etc than a printer but we don't have a traditional open source printer despite printers existing since the 70s.
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amstan 6 hours ago
I can't tell if any of this gives you more access than the normal http admin interface.
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cheschire 5 hours ago
Well now you can point an LLM at it. I’m not sure that gives you anything either, but I’m not sure the hacker ethos makes that a priority.

Sometimes a hack is just cool because it’s a hack.

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dizhn 5 hours ago
As far as I can tell, it doesn't. The web interface is like 90s website but it does have a million suboptions. None of these seem like it needed any hacking. I am not sure about the Debug ones. I'll have to check. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an available api listening with the same commands available. If not that would be the useful outcome from work like this. A CLI that implements these.

Now if you could use to allow firmware downgrades when the installed firmware doesn't, that would be useful too. I disabled updates on mine at a version that already allows it. I bought it a few weeks ago but luckily it didn't come with the latest "I don't like your ink chip" firmware.

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xrd 3 hours ago
I keep searching for Brother printers at Goodwill because apparently they are the best for non-DRM cartridges.

But, when I use my little pocket friend (an AI called Gemini, perhaps you know him?) he often indicates that the printer I'm seeing is 12 years old, and probably has wear and tear on the rollers.

Does anyone know if this is true? I would really like to get a printer that avoids the cartridge cartels.

But, Goodwill is no longer really inexpensive, and they often don't let you return things if they are broken. I would pay $20 for a used printer, but the few Brother printers I found are always $69 or thereabouts.

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nekusar 3 hours ago
Yeah, Goodwill is pretty much a scam these days, for everyone either working for or buying from. It used to be better. Not great, but at least they used to serve the community.

And since they opened up their auction site (like an early eBay) it's just gone upside down stupid.

I'm also unsure how they even keep their 501c3 status.

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throwup238 2 hours ago
> I'm also unsure how they even keep their 501c3 status

There’s a special carveout in the law. As long as they’re only selling donated items, they can remain tax exempt (or to be precise, that income is not counted as “unrelated business income” so they can keep it under the nonprofit).

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ciex 5 hours ago
But what are the things you would want from a printer that is already quite reliable, not DRM'd, and presumably compatible with all the devices you want to use it with?
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rationalist 3 hours ago
Idk if they still do this, but a long time ago I had a Brother inkjet that wouldn't print black and white if one of the color cartridges was empty (cyan iirc).
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embedding-shape 3 hours ago
Lots of utterly shit printers limit what ink cartridges you can actually use, being able to mod the firmware to remove that limitation (which should be made illegal but alas) would be a win for humanity at large.
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ciex 2 hours ago
Anecdotally, I have never had issues with 3rd party cartridges in my Brother printer.
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devy 7 hours ago
Great write up and reverse engineering of firmware! I hope to see Epson MFC inkjet printers to have similar discovery too (perhaps it literally a prompt away with a link to this article).
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gregoryl 6 hours ago
I was digging around an epson receipt printers firmware recently; got as far as discovering http endpoints (hardcoded auth) to remotely enable ssh (but not login), and some other diagnostic access. They seem fairly well put together.
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commandersaki 3 hours ago
I hope there is a way to reset the toner level/page count detection as that would let me refill the new toners which are chipped.
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gradous 3 hours ago
Cool post, I was interested in doing this to my own Brother printer too!
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greyface- 6 hours ago
The same SET USER 640184.571119 command works on my 2012 Brother MFC-9460CDN.
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mlfreeman 3 hours ago
It also works on my Brother HL-L3280CDW
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petesergeant 2 hours ago
One recent project that LLMs has made easy has been properly segmenting my home network, which my boss archly described as "the internet of everything" for the sheer number of weird devices on it including a Brother printer under my bed.

I have a special sandboxed agent with encrypted credentials (and on its own locked down physical box) that's set me up vLANs and the like on a bunch of MikroTic hardware that I wouldn't have bothered to do myself if I'd had to be hand-maintaining it.

Been connecting a Raspberry Pi Zero to various points of it via ethernet and wireless to scan the intended segmentation works fine, and it does look that way.

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nekusar 3 hours ago
Hmm.

So this should also be an entry point to disable the yellow dots tracking, and also save Y ink.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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nubinetwork 6 hours ago
But what do those numbers mean?
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josteink 5 hours ago
This piece had potential but IMO was a bit disappointing. The entire thing could be summarized as:

1. "I used AI to download and analyze a firmware image, and found a way to unlock DEBUG mode."

2. "I didn't actually explore the DEBUG mode at all, but here are the commands the AI found for me (link)"

I'd love for the author to at least put in a little real effort, explore some of these debug commands, and tell us why they are interesting.

As this is - I find it to be very minimum-effort, AI-assisted blog-slop. Sorry!

(Now for the link[1] to the actual (unexplored) debug-commands... It has really weird casing of the descriptions in the "behaviour"-column. Does anyone know why that is?)

[1] https://inventor7777.github.io/brother-mfc-commands-list.htm...

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DrinkyBird 2 hours ago
Seriously, this article is so fucking dull. So are most security or programming write-ups these days. "ChatGPT said this, Claude did this..." Same thing with that Switch 2 exploit. I so dearly miss the days of hearing stories of people discovering things and actually solving problems, instead of just asking some LLM and copy-pasting the output with no understanding.
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lmz 5 hours ago
The weird casing seems to be a minimum accepted prefix for the keywords.
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cellsstudio 6 hours ago
This is a really cool little project. Also, the title gave me a strong hit of like mid 2000's internet "hacking" content that I tore through when I was in high school.
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NitpickLawyer 6 hours ago
The e-zines can make a comeback, there's probably enough content now. phreak2030s: "put the local load in the bearing firmwares". Or something :)
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