Leak Exposes 41,000 Homeland Security Workers–Including Undercover ICE Agents
232 points by Aboutplants 3 hours ago | 94 comments

fastily 38 minutes ago
The primary source for the article: https://ddosecrets.org/article/icepick
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sailfast 24 minutes ago
Whatever your feelings about ICE and this administration, there are probably some undercover folks in real danger at the moment. Probably doing some real work to stop some real abuses that you’d want them to stop. (Not saying all - but likely some / many to be in that program)

So - while I might agree that secretive domestic organizations like MI5 should not exist and sunlight is good for government, I feel for the families of the folks that might catch a bullet because of this.

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chneu 7 minutes ago
Hell nah. They signed up for this. They knew exactly what their mission was. Stop defending people who were recruited to deport, and in many cases assault, innocent people.

Making lame excuses for "the good guys" reinforces that these people are doing good. They arent.

Your excuse will be used against you as soon as it's convenient to them.

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morkalork 2 minutes ago
So who's going to cross-reference the list with the J6 peeps?
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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago
Can you search for agents near me?
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camel_gopher 2 hours ago
Local agents want to meet you.
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bigwheels 33 minutes ago
And they already know your location. They're 3 minutes away.
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citruscomputing 23 minutes ago
Yes! Here's a link to view agents in Chicago, for example: https://icepi.cx/search?city=Chicago&agencies=HSI&agencies=I...
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paaloeye 25 minutes ago
So cool, terrorist Karen can now easily email/LinkedIn/whatever escalate to a skip-level manager if an officer is misbehaving.
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morkalork 11 minutes ago
At little too convenient happening days before the midterm elections. Is this the precursor to a declaration of emergency? Perhaps after an act violence that was enabled by the leak?
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resters 28 minutes ago
At first I hoped that fears about ICE abuses were overblown, but then I saw video after video of masked, badge-free agents manhandling and throwing grandmas and elderly/weak people to the ground and generally acting like thugs, stalking immigration courts for people trying to comply, doing nazi salutes, etc. It quickly became clear that ICE is largely made up of KKK or proud boy thugs who see it as a chance to brutalize a vulnerable population that they despise.

Now that this data has been leaked, identities can be correlated with facial recognition, gait analysis, and other biometrics to conclusively identify the agents who committed crimes. Much of the video footage shows agents flagrantly breaking the law, abusing power, violating the rights of citizens and noncitizens alike.

Now that his leak has occurred, criminal ICE agents will be brought to justice for many of the crimes committed already, and the data will also inform the prosecution of crimes they will likely commit during the rest of Trump's term in office. Many of the crimes are violations of state law, so there is nothing the executive branch can do to stop the prosecutions.

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blacklion 15 minutes ago
Do you really believe in this?

You can see fate of Guantamo's officers and their chain of command. As far as I remember, nobody was really punished, several people were dismissed, but with full pension.

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xvxvx 3 hours ago
In a note with the files, the hackers wrote, “They have our information, so it's only fair that we have theirs.”

I mean, they’re not wrong…

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liveoneggs 2 hours ago
what was the okta config error?
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eastbound 37 minutes ago
Just upvoting to emphasize that Okta, SSO and MDM services in general are an extremely major single point of failure. From the point of view of a non-expert in security, it would seem like segmenting the authentication services of companies should be a security requirement.
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righthand 3 hours ago
This should already be public information imo.
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derac 2 hours ago
Yes, why do we have undercover domestic spies and enforcers? Is that something we want? Vote!
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mitxela 2 hours ago
We did vote, we voted for this and got what we voted for.
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AlexErrant 37 minutes ago
It still blows my mind he won the popular vote.

This timeline is fucking _wild_.

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edoceo 17 minutes ago
The most popular candidate was "I didn't vote"
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2OEH8eoCRo0 2 hours ago
That's definitely why Trump is -27 net approval.
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shipman05 2 hours ago
That's just buyers remorse. He told us how he intended to govern. His opponent told us how he intended to govern. The voters were not mislead.

(and his approval would be the same mid 40s it always was if gas prices were reasonable)

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fnordpiglet 2 hours ago
He’s never achieved a majority vote in any election, FWIW. His claim of a mandate was just as brazen as all the other litany of lies - he’s a lame duck lame duck. The true shame is on the congressional republicans for letting him sully them so deeply and follow him in his self immolation of the entire government and America in the world. The rebuilding will be a major test of the successor, and it’ll be fascinating to see if the Goldwater republicans can become the party of reason again rather than this reality TV idiocracy.
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wredcoll 22 minutes ago
> The true shame is on the congressional republicans for letting him sully them so deeply and follow him in his self immolation of the entire government and America

This is the problem when your entire identity and principles boil down to "doing what the social superior tells you to".

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exe34 56 minutes ago
This is not idiocracy. It's the prequel. In idiocracy, they understood that they were dumb and put the smart guy in charge.
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evan_ 47 minutes ago
for 20 minutes, and then they tried to kill him
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kayamon 31 minutes ago
Americans aren't angry because Trump was wrong, they're angry because it's not working.
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tyromaniac 34 minutes ago
After denying project 2025 and then carrying it out almost exactly? They were misled.b
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wredcoll 23 minutes ago
What?
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2OEH8eoCRo0 21 minutes ago
During the election Trump denied knowing anything about Project 2025 and he has enacted a lot of it. I dont know why voters trusted him on that but here we are.
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wredcoll 13 minutes ago
Trump is globally famous for lying. It's possibly his most well known attribute? What's the argument here?
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2OEH8eoCRo0 10 minutes ago
The argument is that what he promised and what we got are very different. Saying people voted for this isn't genuine IMO.
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JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago
It’s not. It’s because he took inflation to the Moon. If he hadn’t had Hegseth at his side, and hadn’t gone into Iran, he’d probably still be treading water.
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fnordpiglet 2 hours ago
And won via a plurality after losing the popular vote in the last election. The least popular president in history can’t win a majority of popular vote. It’s not shocking he’s deeply unpopular, he never was popular. He’s a won twice on a technicality of the republic created to ensure the rural states wouldn’t be dominated by Virginia in the original establishment of the union.

He’s a pariah everywhere on earth, most especially at home. The sad part is the democrats couldn’t mount a successful campaign against someone so unfit to lead. Now there’s nothing left to do but clean up the mess and undo the terrible harm he has caused and repair what can be once he’s finally out of our hair.

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hnfudman 35 minutes ago
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_AzMoo 2 hours ago
Eligible voter turnout in 2024 was <50% for 18-24 year olds, and <65% for 25-44 year olds in the US.
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deadbunny 2 hours ago
Unless 100% of people vote it doesnt count as voting?
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fluidcruft 18 minutes ago
People who don't vote don't oppose the winner.
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asanineassasin 2 hours ago
Any idea is worth entertaining, to avoid the realization the purity spiraling ideology is just as reviled by 90 % of the people as is racism.
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IgorPartola 46 minutes ago
I think my idea for this is that a candidate doesn’t win the election unless they get more than 50% of all eligible votes, not 50% of the votes cast. If there is no clear winner the seat is vacant, but a new election is scheduled for two weeks later. Districts and states that don’t care to vote simply don’t get a say.
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Blackthorn 48 minutes ago
The New England Patriots lost the 2026 Superbowl, and that list of losers includes all the second and third stringers who didn't play.
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_DeadFred_ 2 hours ago
Because people in safe demographics (non minority, no care about reproductive rights) love to broadcast 'both sides are the same'.
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NoidFonsense 49 minutes ago
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airstrike 35 minutes ago
It was more like Obama was so cool and had so much panache he won despite having an extremely incompetent team...and then both he and his team believed he won because of them and proceeded to self-sabotage the DNC from within.

To be clear, I'm not excusing him. I think he was very cool indeed but ultimately a weak president that lacked in leadership before and after his term

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user- 27 minutes ago
>NoidFonsense.

This is a dogwhistling incel username.

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cluckindan 28 minutes ago
What do you think makes a person left-wing or left-leaning?
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KerrAvon 36 minutes ago
oh yeah? which attitudes do you take issue with?
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airstrike 33 minutes ago
Feels like you're trying to bait them instead of engaging in good faith.
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Revanche1367 21 minutes ago
If this was in another country that is not predominantly inhabited by people of western/central European heritage, US mainstream media would've been calling these "undercover" agents the "secret police" or "stasi" or some other term heavily connotated with tyranny and oppression.
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dools 2 hours ago
Sucked in
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wigster 52 minutes ago
oh dear
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TacticalCoder 43 minutes ago
At this rate soon it's going to be very suspicious if someone is not part of any leak ; )
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tamimio 51 minutes ago
What an interesting times, a hack the “exposes” people who are supposedly and should be publicly known to start with.
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dbg31415 27 minutes ago
Right? Let's just keep this list as a list of people who should never hold office, or work in law enforcement ever again once Trump goes.

"Leaks" like this should just be a FoIA request. Anyone enforcing the law should have their face, and badge number, prominently shown at all times.

That's how we show that we aren't ashamed of our laws. Any time it takes a mask to do your job... you know you're doing something you ought not be doing.

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ck2 3 hours ago
Not sure how I feel about this but I am sure about one thing

There should never ever be a masked police force in this country, it's disgusting

Think about all the things we've written off in the past two years and faded from the news

Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments

And all bets are off for the next two years, looks like Dems will get the Senate but even then they can't stop the scorched-earth that is coming

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drop_star 2 hours ago
Remember when these people had issues wearing masks (Covid). Now all of a sudden its not a problem.
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pixelatedindex 2 hours ago
It feels more like a reverse psyop, like “look we are wearing masks now, isn’t this what you wanted”?

As long as the sides keep reducing common ground, the farther away from government for the people, by the people we go.

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wredcoll 19 minutes ago
Tell me more about how "the sides" are reducing "common ground"?
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bediger4000 2 hours ago
Again, let's think of two children fighting over their shares of a cookie. Child A says he should get all of the cookie. Child B says that wouldn't be fair, the cookie should be split evenly, half and half.

The adult in the room decides to promote common ground, and gives 75% of the cookie to A and 25% to B.

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denkmoon 2 hours ago
who exactly is the adult in the room supposed to be in this analogy? There _is_ no adult in the room, just the two children.
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thrance 46 minutes ago
The adult in the room here is the moralizing "enlightened centrist" that puts bothsideism in every conversation about politics.
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ck2 2 hours ago
I am not so sure people started saying "this is fine"

more like he started 1000 other fires, several each week if not a new one each day to make far worse problems

It's not just the most corrupt administration, it's the most chaos and definitely by design

btw all investigations dropped for the execution of two citizens, I mean that's definitely not fine with anyone, just way too many other problems going on now at the same time

well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

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ryandrake 2 hours ago
> well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

This assumes The Other Side will do anything if they do get into power. My prediction: A milquetoast moderate leads the (D)'s and declares: "In the interest of unity and moving forward, we will not go after anyone in the previous administration. Let us all hold hands and get past this with minimal drama... They have pinkey promised they will never behave this way again when they get to power, and we believe them."

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KerrAvon 33 minutes ago
The Democratic base is way too angry for that to fly this time. If Jeffries tries it he'll be removed as speaker.
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dabinat 29 minutes ago
Part of the problem is that the justice system is as slow as molasses. They tried to hold him accountable for things he did in his first term and four years wasn’t long enough.
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wredcoll 18 minutes ago
Eh, owning the supreme court helps a lot. It moves pretty quickly when it needs to protect trump.
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toomuchtodo 2 hours ago
It's wrong when they feel like it infringes on them, it's okay when it empowers and emboldens them to cause harm to others without repercussions.
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SchemaLoad 41 minutes ago
There's going to be massive trials over the next few years. So many people are going to have accountability catch back up to them. Maybe not the ultra rich but all these ICE goons shooting people on the street will be held accountable.
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aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 18 minutes ago
I Want to Believe
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sheepscreek 2 hours ago
Anytime I see one I can’t shake off the feeling I got when I first saw Watchmen. I thought “this is so dystopian and bizarre; so out there”. Didn’t have this in my bingo card for the decade.
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havnagiggle 2 hours ago
The Senate can hold people in contempt with a 50% vote. So they could do something to reign in the fascists starting January, but I'm not holding my breath. And that's still a long road.
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ck2 2 hours ago
Senate has no mechanism to prosecute contempt charges

That goes to the DOJ, which of course means nothing happens, at least for next 800 days

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taylorfinley 2 hours ago
It's my understanding they can detain under the inherent contempt power, it's been reported [0] that the House has a jail that can be readied if needed.

[0] https://rollcall.com/2019/05/08/just-where-is-this-secret-ho...

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jfengel 2 hours ago
That opens a can of worms that you're never going to close.

Maybe this is such an emergency that it's worth the risk. But the risk is extremely high; if you do it to them, even with the best of reasons, they are going to do it back to you for any reason they can think of.

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anon84873628 2 hours ago
Hence why it is important to be thorough.

Plus they will do it anyway. There is no shame or honor regulating their behavior.

Accountability is what was missed last time and is the only way forward.

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wredcoll 16 minutes ago
God I am tired of this argument.

What you're saying is that "we" shouldn't enforce the law because "they" will break the law in response.

Aside from being inherently morally bankrupt, they'rw already breaking the law.

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nilamo 45 minutes ago
Good! Both sides should be prosecuting each other over violating the constitution.
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wredcoll 14 minutes ago
Hey remember when we had a 2 (plus?) Year trial over whether or not the president had sex with someone other than his wife? Something about family values or morality or whatever they said at the time?
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ihsw 3 hours ago
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mitxela 2 hours ago
I doubt the Dems in office want to stop any of it
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nonethewiser 2 hours ago
Many will say that they wouldn’t need to protect their safety and privacy if they werent doing something wrong.

But in terms of if its ever appropriate for law enforcement to wear masks, isnt the question if its ever possible to threaten a law enforcement officers safety who isnt doing something wrong?

The FEDs wear masks in cartel operations all the time and that seems fine.

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ethin 47 minutes ago
I'm not really sure what your getting at. The entire reason that masked LEs are opposed is because (1) it makes it impossible to hold them to account and (2) it makes it trivial to impersonate any LE (ICE hasn't exactly tried all that hard to make special gear for themselves, just buying what's on EBay and similar, so literally anyone could just buy the same gear they're using and impersonate an ICE officer, and since ICE doesn't like identifying themselves, you would have no immediate way of distinguishing between a random citizen who wants to ruff you up or murder you versus a LEO)
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KerrAvon 29 minutes ago
Yup. This is not okay. It should be illegal. Maybe it is, IANAL. This person didn't know whether she was getting arrested or kidnapped or why. On top of which this is unnecessary brutality on the face of it. This needs to stop.

https://kotaku.com/umamusume-pretty-derby-cosplay-clara-tan-...

> As she hits the sidewalk, Tan hears what she describes as “a godawful crack” come from her foot, and then realizes she’s being cuffed behind her back. “I’m being kidnapped and I have no idea who these men are,” Tan writes. She’s dragged to an unmarked SUV, thrown in the back, and claims to have heard one of the men say, “This could all have been avoided if you’d just come quietly.”

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dabinat 16 minutes ago
They don’t have a right to privacy when they’re at work. The Supreme Court has said it is legal to film officers, including their faces, while carrying out their duties.
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mnd999 47 minutes ago
Boo hoo
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Arubis 47 minutes ago
Fuck ‘em.
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bradthebeaverfa 2 minutes ago
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SaaSPocalypse 25 minutes ago
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matt3210 3 hours ago
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slowin 2 hours ago
Why would this be tragic? The public absolutely has a right to know who these people are. No one is forcing them to join these organizations.
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elonsmusk 2 hours ago
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pixelatedindex 2 hours ago
> antifa supporters on HN

Come again? If you have umbrage against antifa, surely you’re pro fascist?

> Most Americans remember how we couldn't even question COVID, DEI or kneeling for blacks and support law enforcement efforts

What do they even have anything to do with each other, except for them being right-wing talking points?

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DaSHacka 55 minutes ago
> Come again? If you have umbrage against antifa, surely you’re pro fascist?

Just because they call themselves "antifa" doesn't mean its accurate. If the nazis referred to themselves as the "free puppies for everyone and world peace organization", it would not change anything about the morality of their party or the acts committed by them, despite the name.

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bix6 3 hours ago
> obtained from a group calling itself the Department of Peace.
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phs318u 2 hours ago
The data is said to have been “vetted and cleaned up” and the front end is designed to navigate the hierarchy.

The leak was via a compromised Okta SSO login (why anyone still uses them is a complete mystery to me).

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phs318u 3 hours ago
This is a dupe. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50280691

The Techdirt article also links to the searchable front end to the dump.

https://icepi.cx/

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paaloeye 2 hours ago
Not really
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phs318u 2 hours ago
Yes really.
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Jtsummers 2 hours ago
Per dang in many previous comments, it's not a dupe. Multiple submissions of the same topic are fine, it's only (maybe) a dupe when a discussion starts or it's actually the same submission. You linked to a submission with 0 comments submitted a whopping 15 minutes earlier. This one is the one that got traction, neither is a dupe. If someone submits it again, now that there is a discussion, or submits the same Wired article, then those would be dupes.
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paaloeye 2 hours ago
wired vs something I've personally never heard before article vs a few paragraphs + image

Not really.

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nvr219 2 hours ago
Maybe really.
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