Stringman, an $800 open-source room scale gripper robot
88 points by nharada 4 hours ago | 41 comments

swid 5 minutes ago
I don't like the way they designed the cables to go down into the room, instead of from the ceiling - seems like that is a deal breaker for most environments actually, because you need the whole room to have open space just to drop it to the floor all over.

They say they use 4 actuators, but if they only used 3, this problem would be solved.

Instead of independently controlling all four lines, you can join the lines leaving each corner unit and then just move the line left or right instead of reeling two different lines in and out. You still use the corner eye loops, and you use two cables that are X+Y in length. This allows you to pick a point on the ceiling. Then a third actuator and line in the gripper itself could lower itself to the floor.

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cloudfudge 3 minutes ago
If I understand what you're suggesting, wouldn't this result in a lot more swinging since the gripper would be suspended from a single point directly above it?
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bigwheels 2 hours ago
It's an interesting concept, but I think I'll hold out for the full-body humanoid version.

There is an undeniable allure to the idea of a bipedal chassis realizing I'm an inefficient drain on corporate resources, then stabbing me to death while I sleep due to a minor Terms of Service violation.

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weirdish 55 minutes ago
I'm sure with a little ingenuity you could rig up stringman to stab you to death!
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fidotron 50 minutes ago
Getting it to be forceful enough would be a bit interesting. Could certainly slowly strangle you in the cabling.
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nancyminusone 47 minutes ago
Depending on how high your ceilings are, dropping items from height could be quite uncomfortable.
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embedding-shape 3 minutes ago
> Could certainly slowly strangle you in the cabling

Reminds me of the engineer who accidentally strangled himself with his contraption:

> He devised an elaborate system of ropes and pulleys to help others lift him from bed. He became entangled in the ropes and died of strangulation at the age of 55. However, he is better known for two of his other inventions: the tetraethyl lead (TEL) additive to gasoline, and chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs). - "The Man Who Accidentally Poisoned the Planet Twice": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley_Jr.

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monkmartinez 33 minutes ago
It could also strangle you super fast, see here; Red Cable Robots Video[1]

[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIr0ZtVVnBA

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adamsmark 29 minutes ago
Poison tipped syringe!
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smnplk 38 minutes ago
This reads very futuramaesque
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doctorzook 32 minutes ago
Slow and horrible, please.
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KumaBear 43 minutes ago
Why humanoid though. I’d want the most efficient design to complete the task at hand. Even if the thing looks like a hybrid of an octopus meets Freddy Krueger
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dyauspitr 31 minutes ago
The difference is, I want the most efficient design that can complete every physical task that I can. That design is probably humanoid.
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schiffern 3 minutes ago
In all the non-murder tasks you can perform, you've already been made econonically obsolete. Your economic residual is merely alignment arbitrage, eg solving CAPTCHAs, murder, etc.

With abliterated open models solving CAPTCHAs, Stringman's coming for our last remaining jobs!

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conductr 46 minutes ago
My thoughts while watching the video

Robot picks up clothes -> this is stupid

Robot picks up kids toys -> this is brilliant

In reality though, I think the cables will never work in a household situation. It's a interesting concept and I'm sure it was fun to build :) Makes me wonder what commercial application this would work for, I'm sure there's something out there that would benefit from this over waiting on humanoid tech

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nomel 31 minutes ago
A fourth cable would allow you to keep the other three constrained up high, with fourth being to lower. Would require some close looped control to eliminate swaying though.
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simon01 38 minutes ago
When I was 12, it was my job to pick up all the toys my much younger sibling had thrown around all house. I spent an hour every day doing that. I wish someone had gave something like this back then. It would save hundreds of hours
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conductr 23 minutes ago
lol. I had much younger siblings too and have memories of pulling out the dust pan and broom if I had to clean after them. Luckily wasn’t my daily job, yikes!
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BorisMelnik 28 minutes ago
I'm thinking about the legos with chocolate milk spilled all over it, or the bowl of cereal sitting on top of the kids toys.

I wonder how it would handle something like a blanket or pillow on top of the toys

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MisterTea 16 minutes ago
I've been wanting to build a cable robot for Halloween which flys a ghost around the front yard with a vision system that detects people passing by and the ghost floats towards them and follows them.
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monkmartinez 40 minutes ago
Awesome!!! I love projects like this.

Reminded me of the Hangprinter https://github.com/tobbelobb/hangprinter which has been around for around for long time... always wanted to build one.

ETA: https://hangprinter.org/

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BHSPitMonkey 2 hours ago
I love the ingenuity, though it's all fun and games until someone or something manages to yank down on one of the cables...
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HeyLaughingBoy 44 minutes ago
Probably sell more of them as expensive cat toys.
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jayd16 41 minutes ago
Can it make a bed? Actually, can it lift a comforter? Can it fold towels?

I think the form factor is actually fine but the specs probably need a boost.

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monkmartinez 37 minutes ago
These things are scalable... but I am not sure the PAF "partner acceptance factor" would pass depending on what you wanted to accomplish.
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stickfigure 33 minutes ago
Realistically, this has one application: The kids' room. PAF might be higher than you think.
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Hasz 32 minutes ago
To those asking about more demanding tasks, I totally think this thing could scale up, reminds me of Maslow CNC (and predecessors):

https://www.maslowcnc.com/

basically a cable driven 4x8 sheet router.

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darkmighty 36 minutes ago
I didn't understand if exactly this feature is available, but I think it would be a good idea to let the strings actually come off each motor completely when yanked hard. Interesting idea :)
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HeyLaughingBoy 45 minutes ago
I was actually just thinking about something like this this morning. Mainly because I was idly wondering if the kinematics would work with just 3 supporting cables. Intuitively, it seems like it should, but I haven't bothered to research it yet.

Anyone?

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swid 12 minutes ago
You can join two of the cables together that come from each corner unit into one. each unit - still with an eye hole in another corner - moves the cable left or right. With the opposite corner unit, you can pick X,Y on the ceiling. I'd put the third cable in the grabber, which can be used to lower it to the floor.

Probably if you went this way, you'd want to measure each ceiling cable so it is about X+Y length, or otherwise the slack needs to be held somewhere.

This is one less actuator than their system if I understand them, and they are not counting the gripper itself.

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wave_function 24 minutes ago
3 cables should work. Each cable length is a single parameter that defines a sphere around the mount, and the intersection of three spheres defines a point.

I suspect the reason they chose 4 is that 3 cables would limit you to a triangular region, so you’d only be able to access half the room.

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jameshart 41 minutes ago
Range of motion would be confined to the space beneath the triangle bounded by the three anchor points. Most spaces are rectangular, so bounding it to four corners would seem likely to give a more useful range of motion.
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stickfigure 32 minutes ago
Perfect for your triangular rooms!
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yathern 2 hours ago
Very clever - and I love "tension is all you need"
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monkeydust 2 hours ago
Super smart but it's one of those ideas that hopefully gives someone else in this space another idea that leads to something that could mass scale and I would buy. Love the ingenuity though.
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smnplk 40 minutes ago
Looks good, but I am waiting for Droneman
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iJohnDoe 56 minutes ago
It's an interesting concept. If you scroll through the page you'll see it's actually pretty strong. The blanket pick up video should actually be the first video.

My fear is that a company that has the money to build and manufacture this will rip off the idea and use their resources to polish the concept. With a lot polish, this type of thing can be useful in certain environments.

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HeyLaughingBoy 43 minutes ago
So, you fear someone else making it "useful in certain environments?"
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bigcat12345678 39 minutes ago
Come on this is not up to the standard. Consumer product must be highly polished, it can be fully unfuncyional, but it needs to look good. This one is close to my 8 years old son's tape+random lego pieces...
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stainablesteel 50 minutes ago
get funding for this, it's worth a shot
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yeehawjared 43 minutes ago
LOL @ tension is all you need
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