Jelly Sheet
119 points by memalign 4 hours ago | 25 comments

OuterVale 2 hours ago
As you can surmise from the domain, this is created by Mr Doob. They're most well known for creating the 3D JavaScript library Three.js: https://threejs.org

Their full site and a lot more cool stuff they've made can be found here: https://mrdoob.com

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treems 2 hours ago
Or, best known to others as being the guy that made Gravity Google way back when.
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skrebbel 52 minutes ago
And r08064!
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boxed 54 minutes ago
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hypfer 44 minutes ago
There are a lot of opposition-worthy linguistic acrobatics within that space, but default they/them is none of them.

It works perfectly. It is inoffensive, a drop-in-replacement, doesn't elongate sentences or any other such negative side effects.

It's real known words not just freshly invented. And it's even semantically correct.

The they/them swap is the most elegant implementation I am aware of.

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dakom 22 minutes ago
His brand is literally "Mr Doob"

The consensus in English-writing guides like the APA or Elements of Style is about staying true to a person's self-identified pronoun while preferring specificity over ambiguity. In a case where you don't know - "they" is perfectly acceptable. In a case where "they" is an explicit self-identity - it's the only correct option. In this case, where he literally calls himself "Mr", it's stylistically incorrect to choose a more ambiguous pronoun where "he" is the correct one for someone calling themselves "mr"

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hypfer 18 minutes ago
Hm. Interesting argument, but I kinda disagree with the premise that "if we have anything exposing gender metadata, the rest of the language around it in a sentence must be pulled into referencing that to be more correct".

It's a coherent thing to argue for, I'll give you that, but it's also.. kinda arbitrary? And one can make an equally convincing case for statelessness in the sense that just because one word carries metadata, doesn't mean that the other words around it must react to it.

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Leonard_of_Q 32 minutes ago
> The they/them swap is the most elegant implementation I am aware of.

Far from it, it only creates confusion and injects ideologically charged "pronoun language" into the discussion. If you feel the need to make clear that yes, the person you're talking about can be a man as well as a woman - something which most people realise and the ones who don't won't anyway no matter which words you use - use something like s/he or "he or she". The first form is just as short, is not ideologically charged and does not create ambiguity.

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hypfer 29 minutes ago
What confusion does it create?

You may genuinely not know the gender of an online nickname, and, frankly, you also don't really have to know? Why share this metadata in the first place.

I kinda see your point regarding "it pulls in culture war", but, to be fair, it's "they/them". Language that - in this very usage - predates the culture war by centuries.

So.. idk I think you might be wrong here.

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boxed 44 seconds ago
"They" is plural AND singular. Obviously it creates confusion.
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exe34 9 minutes ago
Unless they are non-binary? But in some languages you'll still run into trouble. In Italian, if your masculine, it's non-binario, and if you're feminine, it's non-binaria.
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hypfer 7 minutes ago
> In Italian, if your masculine, it's non-binario, and if you're feminine, it's non-binaria.

Haha what the fuck. Who implemented that oh my god.

Genuine question though. That cannot be grassroots, can it? Because it completely defeats the purpose of that. Did this just come up because someone _had_ to translate the english culture war during news reporting?

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skrebbel 51 minutes ago
It won’t mind.
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antoniojtorres 45 minutes ago
Useful!
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TychoCelchuuu 41 minutes ago
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dengsauve 2 hours ago
Definitely kept me on the page, very cool.

If it could move with a mobile device’s gyroscope, that would be quite the amuse-esprit.

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TechPlasma 2 hours ago
`Unable to start: can't access property "getSupportedExtensions", this.gl is null`

Doesn't work on Firefox Mobile.

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mpern 15 minutes ago
Works over here on Firefox Mobile 159.0.1
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0x00cl 35 minutes ago
You might have webgl disabled. In the URL bar:

about:config -> webgl.disabled: false

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Leonard_of_Q 46 minutes ago
Works in Fennec (F-droid), doesn't work in Brave
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stephbook 57 minutes ago
Safari/Chrome on iPhone fail.
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fmbb 54 minutes ago
Wdym?

Works in Safari on my old iPhone 12 mini.

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Rnonymous 2 hours ago
Works on iceraven on mobile for me.
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lofties 2 hours ago
Love it, but I want to tear it in half!
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ayaros 22 minutes ago
So squishy
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cpvcpv 2 hours ago
Really fun to play with. Great work!
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jdpigeon 2 hours ago
Classic web shit. Nice.
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hizlikovboy27 49 minutes ago
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xueyu 54 minutes ago
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