Live-migration support in FreeBSD and bhyve coming
56 points by JohnDohnBohn 5 hours ago | 11 comments

e12e 36 minutes ago
Anyone heard anything from dragonflyBSD lately? This sounds like something that might go well with HammerFS?
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adrian_b 13 minutes ago
I am using FreeBSD, not DragonflyBSD, but I happen to be on a DragonflyBSD developer mailing list, which is normally low traffic, except that I have noticed recently a lot of messages with various patches, mentioning both bug fixes and newly implemented features.

So the project is alive and it seems more active than previously.

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als0 2 hours ago
Also related is Propolis from Oxide who worked on live migration with Bhyve https://github.com/oxidecomputer/propolis
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JohnDohnBohn 5 hours ago
Looks like this could really become a game changer for the FreeBSD folks using bhyve. The author often complained about this missing feature and he was also contributing to the Sylve project. Looks like he's crafting something.
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hnlmorg 2 hours ago
What’s FreeBSDs story like for Docker these days?

I love FreeBSD. But I reluctantly had to migrate one of my home servers to Ubuntu Server because I needed Docker support as well as ZFS. Ubuntu Server, compared to FreeBSD, is a complete clusterfuck of an OS. And I regret the effort I spent migrating.

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warpflyght 8 minutes ago
There's experimental support for Podman and OCI containers on FreeBSD 14.3 and later, with some additional system configuration required [0], [1]. I've been playing with it off and on with FreeBSD 15.0 and 15.1, but I'm not using it for anything I depend on.

[0]: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/containers/

[1]: https://podman.io/docs/installation#installing-on-freebsd

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TacticalCoder 32 minutes ago
> What’s FreeBSDs story like for Docker these days?

My current setup for Docker (Podman really in my case):

    Proxmox -> Linux VMs -> Podman containers inside Linux VMs
My plan:

    FreeBSD's bhyve hypervisor -> Linux VMs -> Podman containers inside Linux VMs
So basically just ditching Proxmox for FreeBSD/bhyve. Then at long last I'll be, again, systemd-free.
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johng 2 hours ago
I used to use Ubuntu a lot about 7 years ago. I saw the writing on the wall. Once they started forcing snap down people’s throats, especially. I’ve been on Debian ever since and have been very happy. I also have run many other OS’s and I feel that Debian is still a good blend of polished and still friendly to the hacker.
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hnlmorg 2 minutes ago
Yeah Debian is nice. But at the time of switching, only Ubuntu offered ZFS precompiled in their official repos.

I did, for a period, run some other distro with DKMS but that was a massive pain to keep up-to-date due to ZoL’s piss poor documentation and messy build tools.

This was quite a few years ago though. Long before even FreeBSD synced with ZoL for OpenZFS. So the problems I encountered have likely matured tenfold since.

But if I’m going to the hassle of installing a new OS then I might as well install FreeBSD again because I just prefer it to Linux (nothing against Linux in general, my laptops and PCs all run Arch)

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jbird99 46 minutes ago
Nice! Can we have high availability / clustering for jails next?
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bashhq_r 3 hours ago
so bhyve getting live migration finally means sylve might actually be usable for production clusters, been waiting on this.
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